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--- Log opened Wed Sep 02 00:00:15 2009
--- Day changed Wed Sep 02 2009
00:00 j-b  ok, my cat is a geek. She doesn't want to sleep anywhere than the package of my Antec case...
00:00 j-b  shoud I worry?
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00:00 nefrir  tel maitre tel chat
00:06 j-b  poor little cat
00:07 afiestas  mmm alsa-caching seems to be definitively the key point, but I'm getting lots of warnings
00:07 nefrir  it's a cat, as long as it has food when it want, it is happy ;)
00:07 afiestas  Using: http://pastebin.com/m57a14102
00:07 afiestas  [0x2685628] main mux warning: late buffer for mux input (192574)  
00:08 nefrir  I would advise the put the display before the transcoding
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00:08 afiestas  like in this  you wrote ? http://pastebin.com/m4d8b07d0
00:08 nefrir  like http://pastebin.com/m79e185c2
00:09 nefrir  and http://pastebin.com/m2b27fa37 might be better
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00:11 afiestas  mmm
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00:11 afiestas  with those the file is not created
00:13 nefrir  try http://pastebin.com/m2bdbe754
00:13 nefrir  might be a '' problem
00:13 nefrir  sorry, http://pastebin.com/m284951f5
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00:14 afiestas  with the last one, the debug msg are back xd
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00:21 crazed  [0x284f7240] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
00:21 crazed  i want to run vlm on freebsd it's a headless system
00:21 crazed  is this possible?
00:22 nefrir  headless ?
00:22 gatty  yes
00:22 gatty  -I dummy
00:22 crazed  vlc -I dummy instead of -I http?
00:22 ILEoo  no
00:23 ILEoo  you can ignore that dbus-message iirc
00:24*xtophe concurs
00:24 crazed  ok i'm still getting this though: http://pastebin.com/m66c6ae29
00:28 crazed  is there a way to specify the itnerface to use?
00:29 j-b  fuck VLC's playlist
00:30 ILEoo  oh?
00:30 crazed  ah actually the http is listening i can get to it but just "403 Forbidden (/)" is listed
00:30 ILEoo  you tried to remove that playlist-id from plitem?
00:31 gatty  crazed: it's restricted to localhost only by default, iirc
00:31 ILEoo  crazed, by default only localhost is allowed
00:31 crazed  oh that's actually good
00:31 j-b  ILEoo: yes :D
00:31 crazed  i'll ssh tunnel my way in
00:32 ILEoo  j-b, did you also get both flat and tree then on same time? ;)
00:32 j-b  lol
00:32 j-b  ILEoo: I am just trying to remove the selector panel from the Qt4 view
00:32 j-b  and make it static
00:32 ILEoo  aa
00:33 j-b  just a huge mess
00:34 ILEoo  not huge, but somewhat complex mess. and first grade mess I should say
00:34 j-b  :)
00:34 j-b  yeah, and this code is old
00:35 ILEoo  that makes it first grade, like vine ;)
00:35 afiestas  nefrir:thanks for the help! despite the warning msg everythign is working well!
00:35 j-b  ILEoo: and I have no idea about how to make that selector pretty
00:36 ILEoo  pink color and flamingos?
00:36 j-b  at least as good as iTunes
00:37 ILEoo  imagemask on background and littlebit round on corners?
00:37 ILEoo  hmm, but I need to start headin home from uni
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00:45 martin___  Anybody know how to fix the "main mux warning: late buffer for mux input" error, when transcoding?
00:45 martin___  Anything cmd line arguments to try?
00:45 Trax  maybe --high-priority or increase input caching
00:46 martin___  my input is eyetv:// .. i have set the eyetv-input-cache to 5000
00:46 Trax  lower quality, lower resolution
00:46 Trax  set the eyetv input res to same as output res (if possible, you can do that with dshow)
00:47 martin___  I'm already running at low quality... and same resolution
00:47 martin___  my computer is very fast, so it's not resources it's missing
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00:47 martin___  cpu use is far from 100%
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00:47 martin___  2.8ghz core2duo
00:48 gatty  make sure eyetv is on a USB 2.0 port (if you're using the USB rather than Firewire one)
00:48 martin___  I'm using firewire
00:48 Trax  doesn't matter, I have done streaming at 50kbit with udp in and rtp out on a dual > 3.6 and it still said late buffer
00:48 martin___  thx for the suggestions... it's really and annoying error
00:48 Trax  I never managed to fix it
00:48 martin___  odamn
00:48 martin___  damn
00:48 afiestas  nefrir: once again, thanks! http://gitorious.org/kamoso/mainline/commit/34b6063c63afc2fbc1d9cd55d08008481176463b :)
00:49 martin___  I have real all the threads on the forum... there's never a solution to this error!
00:49 Trax  gatty were you looking for some generic free hd stuff?
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00:49 gatty  Trax: yes
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00:50 Trax  I'm just stitching some ebu stuff, but I realise when doing 422 that I can't use that for x264 since tjhat only does 420
00:50 martin___  I haven't tried high-priority, so can try that..  
00:51 Trax  sample I have now is just the generic crowdcross, water, etc. but it doesn't run yet in vlc.. prores 422 file
00:51 gatty  ok, well no rush, I'm not in work this week and out of the country next week
00:51 martin___  this is one persistent error.. almost makes me want to go to ffserver instead of vlc... :(
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00:53 Trax  does it also affect the output in a bad way, like you have timestamp (PTS out of range) problems?
00:53 martin___  I have seen those errors too as a matter of fact
00:54 martin___  I see this right before it starts flodding the log...: stream_out_transcode stream out debug: drift is too high, resetting master sync
00:55 nefrir  afiestas: you're welcome
00:58 j-b  ILEoo: almost done. You will be able to remove the selector model soon.
00:58 j-b  Is there a root item for SDs, or any is its own root item?
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01:09 CIA-12  Gonçalo Cordeiro  1.0-bugfix po/gl.po: l10n: Galician update Signed-off-by: Christophe Mutricy <xtophe@videolan.org>
01:09 CIA-12  Mindaugas Baranauskas  1.0-bugfix po/lt.po: l10n: Lithuanian update Signed-off-by: Christophe Mutricy <xtophe@videolan.org>
01:09 CIA-12  airplanez  1.0-bugfix po/ko.po: l10n: Korean update Signed-off-by: Christophe Mutricy <xtophe@videolan.org>
01:09 CIA-12  Christophe Mutricy  1.0-bugfix src/libvlc-module.c: Allow win users to select Lithuanian
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01:16 vlcsvnbot  videolan commit by xtophe rev 5633
01:16 vlcsvnbot  New mirror
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01:23 Dark_Shikari  j-b or anyone: does VLC or anyone else notable use dlopen on x264?
01:24 xtophe  Dark_Shikari: vlc doesn't. no idea about others
01:24 DGMurdockIII  what is dlopen
01:25 Dark_Shikari  ok, thx.
01:26 sam  DGMurdockIII: runtime dynamic linking
01:26 DGMurdockIII  ok
01:26 sam  like LoadLibrary
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01:26 OsamaK  xtophe: ping
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01:27 sam  Dark_Shikari: why do you ask? is it different from dlopening a library that is linked with x264?
01:30 Dark_Shikari  we are changing the calling convention slightly with the following macro set, which will break existing dlopens but not existing normal calls
01:30 Dark_Shikari  #define x264_encoder_glue1(x,y) x##y
01:30 Dark_Shikari  #define x264_encoder_glue2(x,y) x264_encoder_glue1(x,y)
01:30 Dark_Shikari  #define x264_encoder_open x264_encoder_glue2(x264_encoder_open,X264_BUILD)
01:30 Dark_Shikari  purpose: cause link failure if the API version is incompatible.
01:30 Dark_Shikari  currently people get all sorts of bizarre runtime failures when that happens.
01:31 Dark_Shikari  so instead, just make it impossible.
01:36 crazed  where's vlc's log by default?
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01:38 DGMurdockIII  (geal): did you know the current 1.1 nightly build on windows errors out when trying to play a video
01:41 crazed  vlc rtsp://66.70.119.243/2DayFM
01:42 crazed  if i attempt that on a headless freebsd system i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m2c1a24bf
01:43 crazed  "VLC is unable to open the MRL 'rtsp://66.70.119.243/2DayFM'. Check the log for details." but on my linux box it plays the file fine. i'm attempting to use this for transcoding with vlm
01:43 crazed  similar error if i try to add everything through vlm interface
01:47 crazed  /usr/local/bin/vlc -I http
01:47 crazed  /usr/local/bin/vlc -I http
01:48 crazed  ah sorry  
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01:57 afiestas  is possible add a filter (for example waves) using libvlc ?
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05:17 toots  lo folks !
05:17 toots  I wonder:
05:17 toots  is it possible to transmux a AAC+ mp4 stream into a mpeg AAC+ stream using vlc in commande line ?
05:17 toots  (and without touching the encoded data of course)
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05:49 george_1984_  Hi all
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05:56 chenee  HI,could I duplicate a stream dynamically? with vlm, if yes,how?
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06:39 roba-au  does VLC1.0.1 create correct theora/vorbis streams, I just cant get things to run...
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07:34 chenee  ,could I duplicate a stream dynamically? with vlm, if yes,how?
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07:41 pfn  is there a 64bit build for snow leopard yet?
07:42 thresh  nope, as 10.6 is utterly broken
07:42 pfn  is it?
07:42 pfn  how so?
07:43 thresh  http://www.jbkempf.com/blog/post/2009/08/28/Snow-Leopard-is-out!-And-why-you-will-not-have-VLC-64bits-right-now...
07:44 pfn  thanks for the link
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08:32 emerica  main warning: backward_pts != current_pts (-80000) main warning: dts != current_pts (80000)   can anyone explain what this means in simpler terms? happens between segments  on mpegs  joined with avidemux
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08:43 bubbles  hi all
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08:45 jspD  hi all
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08:47 vlcConf  hi all
08:48 vlcConf  i have doubt regarding vlc fullscreen any one plz help me
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08:50 vlcConf  i m using  Version 0.9.9   of vlc
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09:06 TypX  'morning
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09:08 funman  salut
09:08 j-b  salut fun
09:08 TypX  wesh
09:08 j-b  salut fred
09:10 ivoire  gre still a pb while playing an avi file (sound but no video)
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09:12 vlcConf  hello
09:12 vlcConf  any one please help me regarding vlc fullscreen
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09:24 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  1.0-bugfix NEWS: More NEWS about translations
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09:33 funman  nefrir: you have seen the at&t patch?
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09:42 ivoire  fabo: AFAIK the patch is valid
09:42 ivoire  -fabo:  +funman
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09:46 funman  nefrir was bisecting some seeking related regression yesterday i wonder if it's related
09:47 ivoire  dunno
09:50 funman  sh|t
09:50 funman  f% head -1 *.mht
09:50 funman  From: <Saved by Microsoft Internet Explorer 5>
09:51 funman  it's in email format, i'm not sure how to translate
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09:59 ivoire  op update the video_filter_rss
09:59 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/rss.c: video_filter_rss: use a timer to update the feed. This way we will be able to have an asynchronous fetch (not the case for the moment as the lock is ...
09:59 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/rss.c: video_filter_rss: use the return value and fix mutex leak (the mutex was never used but it will be used soon).
09:59 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/rss.c: video_filter_rss: asynch fetch (no more lags while fetching/parsing the rss feeds).
10:01 j-b  http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/
10:01*j-b slaps ivoire with NEWS
10:02 ivoire  hum yes if you want
10:02 ivoire  but that's not completelly finished (can still leak a bit of memory if you failed to fetch the rss feed)
10:03*funman slaps j-b with a dildo
10:03 funman  kolivas didn't resign from kernel dev?
10:03 funman  only stupid people never change their mind
10:03 j-b  he did
10:04 j-b  but he can do great stuff
10:04 j-b  see above
10:04 funman  and on that subject, i never changed my mind
10:04 funman  "Waiting for
10:04 funman  "Waiting for ck.kolivas.org..."
10:04 j-b  yes, it is slow
10:04 funman  montavista is great
10:05 funman  they have an installer for their devkit
10:05 funman  it's installshield(tm) statically linked with java
10:05 funman  bundled in the installer : 1 file
10:05 funman  the file: a .tgz
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10:05 funman  so basically it's convivial for dummy linux users: it installs a .tgz and then you have to open a console to unpack it
10:06 funman  is it win?
10:06 jpd  change your mind and gain IQ instantly!
10:06 funman  ICQ?
10:06 jpd  not merely win, it is win-win!
10:06 jpd  that too
10:07 funman  http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fail-owned-photoshop-fail.jpg?w=500&h=437
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10:09 ivoire  j-b: http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/ can't access to the server :-(
10:10 jpd  like you needed to look at the shadows to see it was a cheap copy/paste
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10:32 funman  damn i can't finetune modules cflags/ldflags if they haven't a corresponding VLC_ADD_xFLAGS(module,flags) in configure.ac
10:32 funman  because VLC_ADD_xFLAGS macro add the module to a list of modules with flags :/
10:32 j-b  xtophe: ping
10:33 xtophe  paf
10:33 j-b  xtophe: do you have any idea about mingw32 vs gcc-mingw32 in debian?
10:36 xtophe  nno
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10:43 j-b  I was afraid of that
10:44 j-b  it doesn't compile vlc
10:45 j-b  ../../.././modules/codec/cvdsub.c:462: warning: unknown conversion type character 'z' in format
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10:52 funman  try std=c99?
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10:53 j-b  if( !p_vout->p_sys->i_changes & SWITCHING_MODE_FLAG )
10:53 j-b  where you put the parenthesis?
10:54 xtophe  then it isn't C99 so it's baaaaad
10:54 funman  j-b: (! (foo & bar) )
10:54 j-b  that is what I understand too
10:54 funman  because ((!foo) & bar) doesn't make sense
10:55 funman  if bar isn't bool
10:55 funman  and i'm not sure what !foo means
10:55 j-b  people don't always make sense
10:55 funman  casted to bool id say
10:55 funman  in soviet russia sense makes you
10:55 ILEoo  I would say !( foo & bar ) on that case
10:56 ILEoo  but anyway that looks kinda fishy
10:56 funman  smells fishy
10:58 ILEoo  I don't have that smell-a-code patch yet
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11:01 j-b  if I have 4 commits, how do I just push 2 ?
11:02 ivoire  git rebase -i
11:02 ivoire  and then merge two commits
11:02 xtophe  j-b: if it's the 2 older, git commit HEAD^^
11:02 xtophe  j-b: else rebase first
11:03 ivoire  j-b: sorry (misunderstood)
11:03 xtophe  j-b: or git commit <sha of the last commit you want to push>
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11:03 ILEoo  j-b: push them all, and then reply on vlc-devel 'crap, didn't meant to push these two' ;)
11:03 j-b  ivoire: no
11:03 j-b  ivoire: this is not what I want
11:03 j-b  those 4 commits are valid
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11:04 j-b  I just want to send 2 patches
11:04 j-b  and keep 2 commits local
11:04 funman  git format-patch -o ~ HEAD^^ ; git reset --hard HEAD^^; git push; git am ~/000*
11:04 j-b  no
11:04 christcross  jpsaman, hi
11:04 funman  use branch; checkout master; apply 2 patches push; checkout branch
11:04 christcross  jpsaman, i need help for vlc fullscreen
11:04 funman  lrn2git
11:05 j-b  funman: you are a genious
11:05 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master modules/access/file.c: file.c: fix compilation on gcc-win32 4.4.1 Previous versions didn't seem to trigger an error here.
11:05 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master modules/video_output/msw/events.c: Win32: add extra parenthesis for gcc-win32 4.4.1 I thought the C priorities were clear on that kind of figure... Why through an error then? But, then, ...
11:06 funman  what did you do?
11:06 funman  & has priority over ! ?
11:06 ILEoo  j-b: http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/quick-git-tip-push-only-some-commits-to-your-upstream-repo/
11:07 ILEoo  like xtophe said, git push stuff-here , profit  
11:07 funman  ILEoo: i thoguth it was a shock site :D
11:07 funman  looked fishy at first sight
11:07 j-b  funman: I did what you said
11:07 j-b  10:54 < funman> j-b: (! (foo & bar) )
11:08 funman  j-b: kill yourself
11:08 funman  (let's see if that works)
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11:09 funman  :/
11:09-!- j-b [n=jb@videolan/developer/j-b] has joined #videolan
11:09 funman  come back we love you
11:09 funman  j-b: afaict operator precedence of ! is not specified
11:09 j-b  funman: that is why I said 'I thought
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11:16 j-b  ok, at least it compiles
11:16 funman  same here
11:17 funman  "at least it compiles"
11:17 j-b  :)
11:17 funman  :P
11:17 j-b  well, mingw-gcc4.4 compiles VLC
11:17 j-b  it will explode because of c99
11:17 funman  montavista-fuck-you-gcc3 compiles vlc
11:18 CIA-12  Olivier Aubert  master bindings/python-ctypes/ (Makefile test.py): python-ctypes: implement basic unit tests
11:18 j-b  OMG, ooo-kde back in debian
11:19 funman  OMG, debian
11:19 funman  they stole everything from ubuntu
11:19 thresh  omg, OMG
11:19 funman  omg, David
11:19 funman  hai
11:20 thresh  hai
11:20 thresh  sup?
11:20 funman  back to rockbox work
11:20 j-b  did you guys ever met?
11:20 thresh  work? you get paid?
11:21 funman  i have a 20GB hard disk player which is quite supported
11:21 thresh  j-b: yes, on #videolan
11:21 funman  no
11:21 funman  nobody pays for rockbox work
11:21 funman  only devices/microsd/money donations
11:21 thresh  you can open some little shop then
11:21 funman  i received 3 players in my mailbox, + 1 4GB µSD class 6 + 1 cable
11:22 funman  j-b: i only met pdherbemont (10 minutes)
11:22 funman  and dionoea (6 weeks)
11:22 funman  and jpsaman (7 months)
11:22 jpsaman  ;)
11:22 funman  jpsaman outperformed everyone else :P
11:23*j-b wants to see funman and thresh drinking IRL
11:23 funman  is "IRL" some brand of beer ?
11:23*j-b slaps funman  
11:23 funman  easy: 1) invite 2) pay drinks 3) ???? 4) vomit
11:23 thresh  :)
11:23 jpsaman  jpsaman gives j-b big trout to slap funman with
11:24*j-b uses and slaps funman with a big trout
11:25*funman swallows trout like a true dutch
11:25*slaine_ drinks their drinks like a true man from IRL
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11:26 emerica  main warning: backward_pts != current_pts (-80000) main warning: dts != current_pts (80000)   can anyone explain what this means in simpler terms? happens between segments  on mpegs  joined with avidemux
11:28 funman  avidemux got pts wrong?
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11:28 jpsaman  jpsaman funman didn't pay attention dutch swallows 'haring' not trouts they are too big :)
11:29 funman  :P
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11:41 j-b  anyone has a Win98 machine?
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11:42 thresh  nice joke
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11:42 j-b  I am serious
11:43*df__ knows of one
11:43 j-b  VM is fine
11:44 ivoire  jbbesnard: I still have one yes
11:44 ivoire  arg j-b !
11:44 ivoire  sorry jbbesnard  
11:44 j-b  can you turn it on?
11:44 ivoire  yes I can
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11:44 ivoire  what do you want to do ?
11:44 j-b  tell me when it is on
11:44 j-b  ivoire: :)
11:46 ivoire  j-b: ok, the PC is all unpluged so I will have to wait for my parents to ask them some question (not sure the PC is still living)
11:46 courmisch  ey
11:46 ivoire  hello courmisch  
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11:55 funman  j-b: you tested audioscrobbler with libre.fm ?
11:55 j-b  yes
11:55 j-b  it worked
11:55 j-b  funman: but maybe the APIs have evolved
11:56 funman  i hope they keep backward compatibility
11:56 j-b  I hope
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11:56 funman    The old Audioscrobbler API which used to be documented here is now obsolete. For information about the new API, including scrobbling support, please visit http://www.last.fm/api  
11:57 funman  then we can make libre.fm default
11:57 j-b  why ?
11:57 funman  because last.fm doesn't support audioscrobbler anymore afaiu
11:57 j-b  what?
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11:58 funman  http://www.audioscrobbler.net/
11:58 j-b  obsolete doesn't mean it doesn't work
11:59 funman  not sure
11:59 funman      *
11:59 funman  Protocol 1.2.1 is backward compatible with 1.2. The only change is an additional, optional, handshake mechanism to allow third-parties to use Last.fm web services authentication to create new scrobbling sessions.
12:00 funman  please to op and /invite quirk
12:00 j-b  op?
12:00 funman  mode +o
12:01 martin___  anyone have an idea on how to fix these errors: stream_out_transcode stream out debug: drift is too high, resetting master sync
12:01 j-b  can't parse sentence
12:01 funman  /mode #videolan +o j-b /invite quirk
12:01 funman  martin___: change CPU
12:01 jpd  can't you /invite?
12:01 funman  12:01 -!- #videolan You need to be a channel operator to do that
12:01 ILEoo  can't he just join?
12:01 martin___  funman: faster u mean?
12:01-!- mode/#videolan [+o j-b] by ChanServ
12:01 funman  martin___: yeah
12:02 funman  ILEoo: yes but he's shy
12:02 funman  fucking french
12:02 martin___  it's not that.. i have 2.8ghz core2duo !
12:02 TypX  again?
12:02 jpd  french, shy? how out of character.
12:02 martin___  cpu only at 40% max
12:02 TypX  this is an invasion
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12:02 QuiRK  hello
12:02 funman  hello QuiRK
12:02 jpd  O HAI
12:02 linkfanel  good morning
12:02*funman takes QuiRK by the hand
12:02 funman  everything will be alright
12:02 QuiRK  :)
12:02@j-b  he is gay too ?
12:02 martin___  after the drift error I get flooded with these ones: main mux warning: late buffer for mux input
12:02 jpd  funman and quirk sitting in a tree...
12:02-!- mode/#videolan [-o j-b] by j-b
12:02 ILEoo  that's somewhat gay funman
12:03 TypX  for always surrendering people, I find them quite invasive
12:03 linkfanel  are you his boyfriend?
12:03 j-b  ...
12:03 funman  QuiRK: cmd.exe can't output vlc debug log
12:03*QuiRK is hiding behind funman, so many people here
12:03 j-b  bad jokes as always
12:03 jpd  now don't be jealous, j-b
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12:03 j-b  jpd: I am!
12:03 funman  you should use vlc --control logger --logmode html --logfile log.html
12:03 Bubbles13  Hi all
12:03 j-b  funman: or use msys
12:03 TypX  QuiRK: you only have to fear us if you're french
12:03 Bubbles13  hello
12:04 jpd  guess funman will have to make it up to you sometime then
12:04 TypX  !french
12:04 funman  bot fail
12:04 jpd  !failbot
12:04 TypX  french bot
12:04 funman  so QuiRK just told me audioscrobbler doesn't work with last.fm and i see a new protocol being used on last.fm
12:04 TypX  he msut be on strike
12:04 funman  claimed to be backware compatible
12:04 funman  and suddenly, french everywhere
12:04 funman  wat do?
12:04 j-b  die
12:04 funman  backward*
12:04 QuiRK  yeah, first, i want to be sure the plugin is really enabled
12:04 thresh  and then die again
12:04*jpd has lunch
12:05 funman  QuiRK: tools > prefs > audio
12:05 funman  tick "submit tracks to last.fm"
12:05 j-b  funman: NO
12:05 j-b  QuiRK: messages, second tab
12:05 j-b  update tree
12:05 j-b  do you see the audioscrobbler loaded?
12:06 funman  i see no object names on master :/
12:06 QuiRK  argh
12:06 j-b  funman: yeah, courmisch removed the feature
12:06 QuiRK  i set it in control interface not in audio
12:06 QuiRK  damn, it's so confusing
12:06 martin___  any parameters I can tweak to try and get rid of : main mux warning: late buffer for mux input ?
12:06 funman  QuiRK: it should be ok unless j-b messed it up
12:06 QuiRK  i followed this tutorial: http://digitizor.com/2009/02/18/how-to-scrobble-tracks-to-lastfm-using-vlc-media-player/
12:07 funman  oh btw i have something to do for 1.1
12:07 ILEoo  martin___: --sout-mux-caching to higher
12:07 funman  merge control & extraintf
12:07 martin___  ILEoo: have u had success with that? I have tried it with 1000 to 100000 miliseconds without it doing anything
12:08 ILEoo  martin___: that message is kinda just warning, and depends somewhat on whatkinda stuff you're trying to mux
12:08 Acheron  arghh is libdc1394 vital to something?
12:08 jpd  gah, top-posting. *grr*
12:09 funman  Acheron: 1394 input?
12:09 Acheron  What is that? :P
12:09 funman  or rather 1394 _control_
12:09 funman  firewire
12:09 martin___  ILEoo: I'm taking an input http stream (mpeg2video, mp2audio) transcoding to and http stream out (mp4video, mp3 audio)
12:09 Acheron  oooh
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12:12 QuiRK  hmm, no, it doesn't work: no submission to last.fm
12:13 QuiRK  the only message about AS in the log is this one: audioscrobbler debug: Meta data registered
12:13 Acheron  I need a disable-1394 or something?
12:13 QuiRK  oh wait
12:14 QuiRK  you submit the track at the end and not at the half as it's recommended
12:14 funman  submission is made once you have reached enough listening iirc
12:14 funman  QuiRK: i think we submit the track at the end, if it has been listened to the half
12:15 QuiRK  hmm ok, so it works, sorry guys
12:15 j-b  \o/
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12:15 funman  damn those french people
12:16*QuiRK slaps funman  
12:16 funman  NEVER TRUST A BMPX DEVELOPER
12:16 j-b  what is bmpx?
12:16 funman  lrn2google
12:16 funman  bmpx is the creator of mpris
12:16 j-b  oh? yet another audio player ? :D
12:16*j-b is bad
12:17*QuiRK slaps funman ;mp :)
12:17 QuiRK  oops
12:17 funman  was that 2 smileys in a row ? :o
12:17 QuiRK  funman, and now, milosz is working on a new media player: http://www.youki.mp
12:17 funman  looks like flash :/
12:17 j-b      *  Video podcast support was added  
12:18 funman  i was going to ask if it was free
12:18 j-b  does it run windows?
12:19 funman  it's not a virtual machine afaict
12:19 QuiRK  no, i'm not sure it runs on fbsd, i didn't try it yet
12:21 Acheron  What does enable-dv do?
12:22 funman  ./configure --help
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12:30 Acheron  cannot find quicktime headers...
12:31*Acheron facepalms.
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12:50 courmisch  do we need scaletempo? how to remove it and what happens ?
12:52 jpd  where the freak are the nortern mariana islands?
12:52 funman  what is your favourite color?
12:52 jpd  rgb or yuv?
12:52 funman  grayscale
12:53 jpd  next you'll be arguing black and white are both colours
12:54 j-b  when is IBC?
12:54 nefrir  courmisch: --noaudio-time-stretch
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12:55 j-b  why not calling it audio-timestretch?
12:55 jpd  also --no-... for consistency
12:56 jpd  IBC returns to the RAI Centre in Amsterdam once again this year, with the conference running from Thursday 10 September to Monday 14 September, and the exhibition opening on Friday 11 September and closing on Tuesday 15 September.
12:56 nefrir  both --no-X and --noX work for evey option
12:56 jpd  want to go man a stand there?
12:56 nefrir  and time and stretch are two word
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12:57 jpd  you need a stretch?
12:57*j-b recompiles gcc
12:58 jpd  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzR4z0UB_g0
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13:04 funman  very good video quality
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13:06 Acheron  What is libgoom? I can't find it in my current repos.
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13:14 courmisch  looks like scaletempo is the one thing that requires float in the default audio pipeline
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13:20 Acheron  How do you fix quicktime for vlc in debian sid? :(
13:21 xtophe  --disable-quicktime ?
13:22 Acheron  But if I need to use .mov files?
13:23 funman  they work without quicktime
13:23 Acheron  ah ok
13:24 funman  courmisch: it could be adapted to integer?
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13:35 funman  "As every geek on this planet I already owned thousands of (unmaintained) blogs before. This is just one more"
13:35 funman  i never owned/maintained blog => i'm not a geek?
13:35 funman  or perhaps from another planet
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13:38 jpd  or both
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13:39 jpd  one down, one to go
13:40 Acheron  libx264.a(common.o) relocation R_X86_64_32 against .rodata.str1.1 can not be used when making a shared object: recompile with -fPIC
13:40 Acheron  libx264.a could not read symbols: Bad value
13:41 Acheron  How do I fix that?
13:41 funman  Acheron: you said it yourself
13:41 Acheron  make -fPIC?
13:41 Acheron  I tried that on x264, but it didn't wanna work? :S
13:41 Acheron  Or is it refered to vlc ?
13:42 funman  no you should rebuild libx264.a with -fPIC
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13:42 Acheron  -f seems to be a file thing?
13:42 funman  well no
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13:42 funman  -f* are compiler options
13:43 Acheron  ./configure -fPIC?
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13:43 funman  CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure
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13:45 jpd  so what does -funman do?
13:45 funman  remove testicles
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13:46 Acheron  ^_^
13:46 jpd  that'd require those were present in the first place
13:47 funman  jpd: sorry for you
13:47 funman  what happened: accident?
13:47 jpd  we get signal!
13:47 funman  https://codesniper.forge.funambol.org/
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13:48 funman  what's funambol anyway
13:48 funman  looks like websomething
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13:49 Acheron  I still got the same error but a bit different...
13:49 jpd  ``open source mobile cloud sync and push email for billions of phones''
13:50 funman  i stopped parsing at "cloud"
13:50 OsamaK  Any idea when trac will be back?
13:50 Acheron  libx264.a(cabac-a.o) relocation R_X86.. against x264_cabac_range_lps can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
13:50 funman  Acheron: recompile with -fPIC
13:50 jpd  I so love push email. bastard child of reverse polling and pop to do what smtp did well before pop and imap even existed
13:50 Acheron  But I did what you said earlier. :P
13:50 funman  make sure -fPIC is given as an option to gcc
13:51 funman  try configure --extra-cflags=-fPIC
13:51 OsamaK  And should I wait or report the to somewhere else, for example, the mailing-list or the forum.
13:51 funman  OsamaK: you can use mailing list
13:51 Acheron  --enable-pic ?
13:51 OsamaK  funman: which one?
13:51 funman  Acheron: dunno, see what the configure --help say
13:51 funman  OsamaK: development ML
13:52 Acheron  build position independant code
13:52 Acheron  for --enable-pic
13:52*jpd really doesn't see why an imap client with say a poll interval of 10 mins or so wouldn't be good enough to convincingly `fake' ``push email'' on a mobile phone. why the extra bloat?
13:52 funman  yeah should be good
13:52 funman  jpd: go and claim the bounty then ;)
13:53 j-b  warning: '__mingw_printf' is an unrecognized format function type ?
13:53 j-b  any idea?
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13:54 funman  look at declaration
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13:54 funman  http://blogs.gnome.org/marina/2009/08/31/women-in-open-source-qa-with-myself/ < why no women in vlc ? :/
13:57*Acheron facepalms again.
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14:01 jpd  need more -funman
14:02 OsamaK_  funman: does it require kind of approval from ML admins?
14:02 OsamaK_  (to join)
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14:04 funman  OsamaK_: no you have to register first, and then you'll receive every mail or one digest per day
14:05 funman  there can be between 50 & 100 messages per day
14:05 funman  see http://mailman.videolan.org (vlc-devel)
14:06 j-b  linkfanel: ping
14:06 OsamaK_  oh
14:08 linkfanel  j-b: pong
14:09 j-b  linkfanel: I have
14:09 j-b  playlist/loadsave.c:62:9: warning: unknown conversion type character 'm' in format
14:09 j-b  any ideas?
14:09 funman  isn't %m glibc?
14:09 linkfanel  j-b: what's your platform?
14:09 j-b  win64
14:09 linkfanel  yes it's a GNU extension
14:09 linkfanel  it's emulated by the VLC code
14:10 funman  but VLC_EXPORT( void, __msg_Generic, ( vlc_object_t *, int, const char *, const char *, ... ) LIBVLC_FORMAT( 4, 5 ) );
14:10 funman  #ifdef __GNUC__
14:10 funman  #   define LIBVLC_FORMAT(x,y) __attribute__ ((format(printf,x,y)))
14:10 linkfanel  in messages.c ?
14:10 funman  in vlc_messages.h
14:11 funman  and LIBVLC_FORMAT in vlc_common.h
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14:12 j-b  ok
14:12 funman  i don't find format attribute doc in info gcc
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14:14 funman  gnu_ values always refer to the formats accepted by the GNU C Library.
14:14 funman  jpd: what if you put format(gnu_printf,...) in vlc_common.h ?
14:14 funman  j-b: ^^^^^^^^
14:14 j-b  nope
14:14 funman  nope = ?
14:14 delusions  hello, whats the status of stream playing of vlc ? i have a rtsp stream and was surprised to see only vlc is able to play it ( tried xine, gstreamer, mplayer ) with problems
14:15 j-b  __format__(gnu_printf) works
14:15 funman  gnu_printf,x,y ..?
14:15 funman  then we should ask courmisch
14:15 linkfanel  hm cool
14:15 funman  i don't believe we use/emulate other GNU extensions, but if we do they might pass unnoticed through this parsing
14:16 funman  else we could have a special format for __msg_Generic
14:16 funman  courmisch: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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14:24 funman  OsamaK_: interesting bug
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14:25 xtophe  OsamaK_: trac-test.  videolan . org
14:26 OsamaK_  funman: is it? :)
14:26 OsamaK_  xtophe: should I re-report the bug?
14:26 xtophe  why not
14:27 OsamaK_  xtophe: btw, when do you usually commit the translations?
14:27 ivoire  ILEoo: why is SetFontSize called for each frame ? Isn't it a good idea to call it only when needed ?
14:27 CIA-12  Pierre d'Herbemont  master projects/macosx/framework/Sources/VLCMediaPlayer.m: macosx/framework: Delay sleeping during playback.
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14:28 xtophe  OsamaK_: when i have time. i commited all the one i have yesterday (except korean that i messed up)
14:28 xtophe  OsamaK_: did i missed yours ?
14:28*funman fixes xtophe's english
14:29 OsamaK_  xtophe: I didn't check, I'll now.
14:29 OsamaK_  xtophe: <http://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=blob;f=po/ar.po;hb=1.0-bugfix> still uses the PO file.
14:30 xtophe  OsamaK_: gni ?
14:30 OsamaK_  hmm?
14:30 ILEoo  ivoire: no idea, I haven't actually looked thatmuch on those per-frame stuff on freetype
14:30 funman  still uses the *old* PO file?
14:31 xtophe  OsamaK_: gni means " i can't understand what uyou mean"
14:31 ILEoo  ivoire: but yes, I think it should be called only on change of size
14:31 OsamaK_  xtophe: I meant "the [old] PO file"
14:33 xtophe  OsamaK_: hmmm. resend it to me please
14:33 OsamaK_  xtophe: ok
14:34 jpd  those wily french
14:34 OsamaK_  xtophe: what's your email?
14:34 jpd  I thought that was "hein", though
14:34 funman  jpd: hein?
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14:35 xtophe  OsamaK_: <nick>@videolan.org
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14:38 jpd  all hail george, bringer of mass surveillance
14:38 OsamaK_  xtophe: sent
14:38 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/ (control/rc.c stream_out/mosaic_bridge.c): add_string wants a string.
14:38 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/rss.c: video_filter_rss: sanitize error path (and fix a potential memleak).
14:38 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/rss.c: video_filter_rss: cosmetics, remove unused variable and add myself to the authors.
14:38 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/rss.c: video_filter_rss: fix remaining potential memleaks and crash.
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14:42 OsamaK__  xtophe: <http://trac-test.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/3065>
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14:46 EpsiloN_  Hi, one time I have already asked about vlc dumping. But still I am facing this problem. Trying to dump RTP stream. My command vlc --demux=dump --demuxdump-file="\home\test\output.dmp" -vvvv "rtp://@182.123.154.11:1212" --intf dummy vlc://quit
14:46 EpsiloN_  The streaming never ends.
14:46 j-b  linkfanel: http://vlc.pastebin.com/m5fad8eb9  
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14:47 linkfanel  why not for WIN32?
14:47 j-b  no idea :D
14:48 j-b  Osamak ?
14:48 j-b  fuck, he is gone
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14:54 jpd  bunch of quitters today
14:54 xtophe  j-b: why is _GNUC_ defined under win ? Doesn't _GNUC_ relate to the libc you use ?
14:54 jpd  no
14:55 linkfanel  that's GLIBC
14:55 j-b  xtophe: I think it refers to std=gnu99
14:55 ILEoo  ivoire: actually for setFontSize, you could just add compare if i_size != p_sys->i_font_size and then call that FT_SetPixel_Sizes
14:55 jpd  gn00, teh st4nd4rt
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14:55 linkfanel  the code that emulates %m is dependent on #ifndef __GLIBC__
14:56 jpd  http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/cpp/Common-Predefined-Macros.html
14:56 ILEoo  hmm.. seems that I have forgot to test those aspect-ratio patches :/
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15:00 ivoire  ILEoo: I let you do it ?
15:06 EpsiloN_  hei... maybe somebody knows hot to quit vlc?  
15:07 TypX  alt+F4
15:07 xtophe  EpsiloN_: your stream doesn't have a length so vlc://quit is never called
15:08 EpsiloN_  xtophe, ok.. if so... how can do the dump?
15:08 xtophe  EpsiloN_: i think we concluded last time that you can't dump it with vlc
15:09 EpsiloN_  xtophe, what can I use?
15:12 xtophe  wireshark maybe
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15:13 ILEoo  ivoire: you can commit it if you're otherwise looking that code
15:14 ivoire  ILEoo: I haven't really looked at it
15:14 ivoire  while tsting a saw a lof of debug message about resizing so I lookup up for the code line
15:16 EpsiloN_  xtophe, i will try.
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15:19 ILEoo  ivoire: did you get '"using fontsize: .."' or some other from freetype?
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15:19 ivoire  [0x9393f34] freetype spu text debug: using fontsize: 15
15:19 ivoire  for every frame
15:20 ILEoo  ah
15:20 ILEoo  that's when SetFontSize is called with fontsize 0
15:23 ILEoo  and that happens alot as you have i_default_font_size defaulting to 0
15:24 ivoire  maybe
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15:29 j-b  \o/ VLC 64bits runs and has sound
15:29 j-b  on WIn32
15:30 TypX  tu bluffes Martoni
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15:30 j-b  nope
15:31 linkfanel  on WIN32?
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15:32 j-b  linkfanel: on Win64 :D
15:32 linkfanel  yeah i see that you totally bluffed
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15:32 j-b  totally not
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15:33 j-b  I am listening to Compile 2D 2004 here
15:33 linkfanel  :l
15:39 CoJaBo-Aztec  ...I thot that said "linkfail"
15:41 TypX  j-b: a piece of art and good taste :p
15:42 j-b  right
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15:44 j-b  linkfanel: taskman confirms that this is wiN64 application
15:45 linkfanel  okay
15:45 j-b  screenshot arriving
15:45 xtophe  j-b: so compiler change did the magic ?
15:46 ivoire  j-b: nice !
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15:51 j-b  http://people.videolan.org/~jb/Win64/VLC_Win64_1strun.jpg
15:53 ivoire  class
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15:53 linkfanel  there's a lot of white in your screenshot
15:54 ivoire  op sed work :)
15:54 ivoire  (without sed)
15:54 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/ (55 files in 32 dirs): add_bool wants booleans.
15:55 j-b  linkfanel: fixed.
15:55 linkfanel  ah, that's better, thanks
15:56 linkfanel  :)
15:56 xtophe  j-b: does it has video ?
15:57 j-b  xtophe: no
15:57 j-b  -Vdummy stalls
15:57 linkfanel  can you stop it?
15:58 j-b  yes
15:58 j-b  Ctrl+c
15:58 j-b  rc segfaults
15:59 j-b  http works
15:59 linkfanel  well... it plays audio
15:59 j-b  yes :D
16:00 ivoire  j-b: rc segfault ?
16:00 j-b  yes
16:00 ivoire  bt ?
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16:02 j-b  I am on windows!
16:02 j-b  ok, I've done enough
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16:04 mrfree  hi all
16:04 mrfree  vlc -Idummy v4l:///dev/video0:channel=0:frequency=623250:norm=pal --sout '#transcode{venc=x264{keyint=2,idrint=2},vcodec=h264,acodec=mp4a,vb=300,ab=32,channels=2,samplerate=22050}
16:04 mrfree  I need to add a RTP container
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16:11 UncleCJ  Hi all. I'm doing transcoding from IP surveillance cameras to FLV to be consumed by web browser - but it seems if there is a glitch the stream can die quietly without VLC shutting down, anything I can do to keep things alive like this?`
16:12 CIA-12  Sébastien Escudier  master modules/demux/live555.cpp: live555 fix use of uninitialized variable. The b_bool variable has been replaced by p_sys->b_paused a while ago. Signed-off-by: Rémi Duraffort ...
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16:19 OsamaK  j-b: ping
16:19 mrfree  anyone can suggest me a string to stream in h264 :)
16:19 j-b  OsamaK: pong
16:20 OsamaK  j-b: are you Jean in the mailing list?
16:20 j-b  OsamaK: yessir :D
16:20 j-b  I am the annoying guy, answering to you always
16:20 OsamaK  j-b: lol, yes you are :P
16:20 jpd  half a name for half a man
16:21 OsamaK  j-b: so I sent a screenshot of Totem. I wish all is clear now.
16:21 j-b  OsamaK: I guess that having the bottom of the english VLC with arabic text is not really correct?
16:21 vr000m  where can I ask Live555 questions?
16:21 mrfree  '#rtp{dst=192.168.0.12,port=1234,sdp=rtsp://server.example.org:8080/test.sdp}'  
16:21 mrfree  what "dst=" means??
16:22 vr000m  i want to enable debugging in the live555 library
16:22 jpd  the first rule of live555: do not talk about live555
16:22 jpd  ``destination''
16:22 OsamaK  j-b: The location is good now, so there is no need to move to the left/right.
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16:22 OsamaK  j-b: The 'Play' button should be, instead of '>'.. '<'
16:23 vr000m  ok thanks
16:23 j-b  OsamaK: I know, but that needs extra images to do so
16:23 jpd  gah, the gn0m3 t0t3m page has a screenshot link but no actual screenshots. inconceivable!
16:23 vr000m  will continue my search elsewhere
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16:23 j-b  so, if I cheat, is it ok, or not?
16:23 jpd  you can mail ross, maybe
16:23 OsamaK  j-b: what kind of cheating? :)
16:23 OsamaK  j-b: you can flip the images 'on fly' if you can.
16:24 j-b  OsamaK: I could do that
16:24 OsamaK  This will solve the problem.
16:24 jpd  does qt have a flip button image function?
16:24 xtophe  OsamaK: does the volume trinagle needs to be flipped also ?
16:24 j-b  yes, it does
16:24 j-b  and that sucks
16:25 funman  I SCREAM IF I WANT
16:25 thresh  TO GO FASTER?
16:25 funman  ICE CREAM IF I WANT
16:26 j-b  OsamaK: if I put the play icon on the left, would it be very weird?
16:26 OsamaK  xtophe: Not as important as the other buttons, but yeah, it'll be better.  
16:27 OsamaK  j-b: not really (because users got used to the other non-arabic players, so they may not notice the difference), but again, flipping is the best option.
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16:28 j-b  OsamaK: how does iTunes, Winamp and WMP behave?
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16:28 j-b  OsamaK: how do I run VLC to test it in the RTL order?
16:28 Prowler  hi! Does anyone know the command for emptying the module cache in Linux/ubuntu?
16:29 OsamaK  j-b: I don't use non-free software. but I think WMP 'play' is on the left.
16:29 xtophe  Prowler: rm -rf ~/.cache/vlc
16:29 OsamaK  j-b: for me: LC_ALL=ar_SA.utf8 vlc
16:29 xtophe  j-b: LANG=ar vlc >
16:29 OsamaK  xtophe: this won't work, there is no lang 'ar'.
16:29 OsamaK  I must go.
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16:31 naveen__  i have installed vlc plugin in my browser
16:31 naveen__  <naveen_> i want to create a links for playing the videos from so and so minutes  
16:31 naveen__  <naveen_> to reduce the time draging the seek bar by searching the instance in long video
16:31 naveen__  <naveen_> is it possible ?
16:31 naveen__  <naveen_> have anyone tried this before ?
16:31 naveen__  hii all
16:31 naveen__  i have installed vlc plugin in my browser
16:31 naveen__  <naveen_> i want to create a links for playing the videos from so and so minutes  
16:31 naveen__  <naveen_> to reduce the time draging the seek bar by searching the instance in long video
16:31 naveen__  <naveen_> is it possible ?
16:31 naveen__  <naveen_> have anyone tried this before ?
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16:34 thresh  we need to get vlc in maemo extras
16:34 thresh  to get discounts on n900
16:35 funman  s/discounts on/free/
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16:48 dutchie  http://joshh.co.uk:8080/
16:49 dutchie  when someone presses play, I see the output, but they don't
16:50 dutchie  streaming using "cvlc v4l2:///dev/video0 -I http --http-host 127.0.0.1:8080", reverse ssh tunnelled from my laptop onto joshh.co.uk
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16:52 funman  dutchie: that's not streaming
16:53 dutchie  ah, that would be the problem
16:53 dutchie  what am I missing?
16:53 funman  streaming
16:53 funman  check the doc on the wiki
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16:55 dutchie  when someone presses play, I see the output, but they don't main stream output error: stream chain failed for `standard{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=server.example.org:8080}
16:56 dutchie  main stream output error: stream chain  failed for `standard{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=server.example.org:8080}
16:56 dutchie  :/
16:56*dutchie feels sillt
16:56 dutchie  silly*
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17:10 mrfree  please send me a working vlc commandline string to stream vlc->vlc :D I'm going crazy
17:11 dutchie  using "cvlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0 --sout '#standard{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=localhost:8080}', when I try to watch it I get "main stream error: cannot pre fill buffer"
17:12 dionoea  you can't stream raw video
17:12 dionoea  You'll need to transcode first
17:13 dionoea  #transcode{vcodec=something,vb=somethingelse}:standard{...
17:13 crazed  i need some help getting freebsd to play vlc streams properly from the command line
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17:13 crazed  it appears that the "access modules" are missing. if you look at the errors i'm getting: http://pastebin.com/m334f9f07 it says that no access module matching "rtsp" could be loaded. i have similar problems with mss and http streams
17:14 dutchie  great working now, thanks
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17:17 xtophe  crazed: line 109
17:17 funman  can you stream girls?
17:19 crazed  xtophe: what does that mean exactly?
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17:19 crazed  i know live555 exists in /usr/local/live
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17:21 xtophe  xtophe: i mean the error on line 109 is your problem
17:22 crazed  do you happen to know if this is a common problem?
17:23 funman  plot "plot.txt" using 1:2 title "discharge curve" with lines
17:23 funman  dionoea: ^ i can't remove 1:2
17:23 funman  "script.gp", line 9: undefined variable: title
17:23 xtophe  crazed: looks like the connection timeout also when it use the realrtsp module
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17:25 dionoea  funman: oh ... btw, you can use shorter versions of the settings as long as their not ambiguous
17:25 dionoea  like plot "plot.txt" us 1:2
17:25 xtophe  crazed: so do you have the correct ip ? what's the server ? are you firewalled ?
17:26 funman  'us' is ambiguous
17:26 funman  could mean 'we', 'USA' etc
17:26 crazed  i have the correct IP it works properly if i'm on linux, but this is a headless freebsd system. the server is firewalled by rtsp is permitted  
17:26 crazed  but*
17:26 dionoea  funman: :)
17:29 xtophe  crazed: well try on a non firewalled freebsd or on a firewalled linux
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17:31 crazed  xtophe: it may be the firewall, i can telnet to 554 on my linux box and get an rtsp bad request but i can't even get there on freebsd. thank you i didn't even think the firewall would be an issue
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17:47 BogdanR  Hello everybody
17:48 BogdanR  I have the latest vlc compiled and I'd like to use it to stream audio from line in
17:48 funman  vlc alsa:// works for hearing it?
17:48 BogdanR  I have thiscommmand /usr/local/bin/cvlc -vvv alsa:// --sout '#transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=128,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:std{access=http,mux=raw,dst=0.0.0.0:8080}'
17:49 BogdanR  should vlc alsa:// just playback audio in?
17:49 courmisch  if it finds the right input device yes
17:50 BogdanR  Interesting
17:51 thannoy  Q about libdvbpsi. It can decode tables, but can it generate tables? I found how to initialize one IET for example, but didn't found how to generate bytes stream associated with the description (get a unsigned char[188] fo example).
17:51 BogdanR  the thing is that I get an error: [0x80f09f8] main input error: open of `alsa://' failed: no access module matched "alsa"
17:51 BogdanR  you can see the whole output here: http://pastebin.com/m6cc9e4c9
17:52 thannoy  (Well, just thnking I have not looked TS muxer which should help me)
17:52 dionoea  BogdanR: it looks like the default input device (hw) isn't working
17:53 dionoea  BogdanR: line 147 it lists all the available input devices
17:53 dionoea  and basically it looks like it's not finding any
17:53 dionoea  which isn't so good if you want to capture audio from an input device
17:53 BogdanR  I see
17:53 dionoea  are you sure that you have a mic?
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17:53 BogdanR  I have audio going into the card
17:54 dionoea  does oss:// work ?
17:54 BogdanR  I think I spotted part of the error
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17:56 dionoea  BogdanR: what was it?
17:56 BogdanR  Yep, I have to recompile alsa because it was compiled only for one card and this one that I am using now is not it :|
17:56 BogdanR  Sorry for bothering you with my stupidity
17:57 BogdanR  I'll get back when I'll have alsa recompiled
18:03 dionoea  ok, please tell me if it works :)
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18:04 BogdanR  dionoea: I will, I really want to get this streaming to work with FLAC
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18:18 ttuttle  Hi.
18:18 ttuttle  I've got a (fairly crummy) wifi webcam, and I'm trying to get VLC to stream the webcam's stream to several clients.
18:19 ttuttle  Out of the box, the camera sends around 4-5 FPS, but it's not always evenly spaced.
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18:19 ttuttle  If I use vlc to stream it, and then play the repeated stream with mplayer, I get bursts of 10 or so frames every couple seconds.
18:19 ttuttle  It also gives me "rc buffer underflow" errors.
18:19 ttuttle  Is there any way to get it to be less picky about the input framerate?
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18:20 funman  what if you play repeated stream with vlc?
18:20 ttuttle  haven't tried yet.
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18:21 ttuttle  It's worse.
18:21 ttuttle  I get "header damaged" and it starts with a gray screen.
18:21 funman  hmm
18:21 funman  it's mjpeg?
18:21 ttuttle  It seems to not send a keyframe when I connect.
18:21 ttuttle  I *think*?
18:21 ttuttle  The URL is /img/mjpeg.cgi.
18:21 ttuttle  But it's sent as ASF or something?
18:21 funman  if you run the server with -vv you have more info
18:22 funman  vlc has some trouble with mjpeg (in mp4 at least) it seems
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18:24 ttuttle  :(
18:24 CIA-12  Rémi Denis-Courmont  master modules/video_output/xcb/xvideo.c: XCB_xv: wait until picture is displayed Note that this does not ensure that the SHM can be written to (we would need to handle an event for this).
18:24 CIA-12  Rémi Denis-Courmont  master modules/video_output/xcb/window.c: XCB_window: memory leak
18:24 CIA-12  Rémi Denis-Courmont  master modules/video_output/xcb/common.c: XCB: memory leak
18:24 CIA-12  Rémi Denis-Courmont  master modules/video_output/xcb/x11.c: XCB_x11: wait until picture is displayed
18:25 funman  ttuttle: but not if it's only forwarding the stream
18:25 funman  so it's weird anyway
18:27 CIA-12  Rémi Denis-Courmont  master src/video_output/vout_pictures.c: picture_pool_Delete: memory leak
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18:27 ttuttle  funman: Is there a way to get it to just forward the stream?  It wouldn't let me not specify a mux, even though there's no audio.
18:28 funman  then you are looking for iptables i think
18:28 ttuttle  er
18:29 ttuttle  I still need it to do http.
18:29 funman  you have to mux the data you send out
18:29 ttuttle  Okay.
18:30 funman  what's your stream output ?
18:30 funman  sout= parameter
18:30 ttuttle  I'll paste it in a couple minutes.
18:30 ttuttle  (I'm on a PDA right now.)
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18:35 NaeRey  howdy
18:36 NaeRey  what's the proper filename format for a soundtrack for a movie?
18:36 NaeRey  Say I have batman.avi and 2 soundtracks (english, italian)
18:36 ttuttle  funman: It was --sout '#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,vb=64}:standard{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=localhost:8080}'
18:37 funman  ah so you transcode
18:38 funman  if you get frames espaced in time then i think it's normal
18:38 funman  NaeRey: separated soundtrack?
18:38 funman  like batman-fr.mp3?
18:38 ttuttle  funman: Would it work better if I didn't transcode?
18:38 funman  perhaps
18:38 ttuttle  funman: Ideally I'd like it to just send the clients the frames as they arrive.
18:39 NaeRey  funman: yep yep
18:39 funman  ttuttle: it seems you can mux mjpeg in "mpjpeg" but i'm not sure how
18:40 funman  NaeRey: name them like you want, but don't expect vlc to recognize them
18:40 ttuttle  hmm
18:40 NaeRey  funman: ... how do I play them through VLC? :|
18:40 funman  NaeRey: remove transcode{} and try mux=mpjpeg
18:40 funman  NaeRey: no idea
18:42 funman  ttuttle: remove transcode{} and try mux=mpjpeg*
18:42 NaeRey  funman: yeah... i was kinda wondering wtf was that for xD
18:42 funman  ^^
18:45 thresh  NaeRey: OS?
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18:48 NaeRey  thresh: Win. also got mac... why? :O
18:49 thresh  well there is no such option in Mac gui yet
18:49 thresh  however it's possible to run VLC with inut slave from console on mac
18:49 thresh  input
18:49 NaeRey  and win?
18:49 thresh  there is an option to open the second file there
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18:51 CIA-12  Dominique Martinet  master configure.ac: configure.ac - lua checks Makes the configure throw an error when lua is not found and --enable-lua has been specified. Also checks for liblua with ...
18:53 funman  http://blog.xbmc.org/trac/changeset/22630 < what does that mean ?
18:54 funman  They added DirectX support to win32, but what was used before ? o:
18:54 j-b  opengl
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18:57 funman  one guy mentioned "video acceleration" about it : confusing
18:57 funman  but true anyway
18:57 j-b  like VLC
18:58 funman  directx doesn't work in vlc?
18:58 j-b  it does
18:58 funman  so?
18:58 j-b  but directx is stupid
18:58 j-b  It is a wrong name
18:58 funman  :o
18:58 j-b  DirectDraw, if you want
18:58 funman  right
18:58 funman  DirectFuck
18:59 j-b  And even DirectDraw is deprecated since Dx8
18:59 funman  D3D?
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18:59 CIA-12  Nick Pope  master modules/ (21 files in 5 dirs): Added window roles for X11 Window roles can be used when configuring window managers to help users place their windows and dialogs according to their ...
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19:00 j-b  funman: Direct Graphics
19:01 geal  directdraw sucks
19:02 j-b  >stoa
19:02 funman  DG?
19:02 geal  !stoa j-b  
19:02 funman  TG
19:02 geal  flûte
19:02 j-b  geal: when are you porting gdi to direct2d?
19:02 thresh  is there an api to draw points? like direct1d
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19:03 geal  when I'm alone and bored?
19:03 geal  (and drunk?)
19:03 j-b  yeah :D
19:04 funman  freebsd gcc 4.2.1 : gnu_printf not recognized
19:04*thresh hates rsyncing VMs with 7M of files
19:04 geal  now may be the time to do it (I was afraid of the API changing at the last minute)
19:05 CIA-12  Christopher Rath  master src/input/stream.c: Fix typo in src/input/stream.c to use CAN_FASTSEEK instead of CAN_SEEK There is a bug in AStreamSeekStream that is causing all input modules that ...
19:06 geal  the API for the "oh look it's shiny" taskbar wasn't meant to change much, because it's what MS gave to the developers to play with before the release
19:06 funman  j-b: which version is your mingw64 compiler?
19:06 j-b  HEAD
19:06 funman  gcc vhow-much ?N
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19:07 funman  perhaps we can use gnu_printf format depending on gcc ver
19:07 j-b  funman: gcc 4.5.0
19:07 j-b  x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc (GCC) 4.5.0 20090901 (experimental)
19:07 CIA-12  Christopher Rath  1.0-bugfix src/input/stream.c: Fix typo in src/input/stream.c to use CAN_FASTSEEK instead of CAN_SEEK There is a bug in AStreamSeekStream that is causing all input modules that ...
19:07 j-b  well, they don't want to change
19:07 funman  i have it 4.4.1
19:08 funman  not 4.2.1
19:08 j-b  they ask if we can use %PRIuMAX instead of %zu ?.
19:08 geal  oh, 4.5, that much?
19:08 funman  geal: well we use vlc 1.1 ;)
19:09 funman  j-b: hm?
19:09 geal  funman: with mingw, it's still 3.4.5
19:09 j-b  you wonder how that still compiles
19:10 j-b  funman: ?
19:10 geal  with a lot of chatterton
19:10 funman  j-b: tell them to look at fprintf documentation in the posix standard
19:10 funman  I see l, d, but not "I64d"
19:11 funman  http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/000095399/functions/printf.html
19:11 funman  rather, not "I64"
19:11 CIA-12  Sébastien Escudier  master modules/demux/live555.cpp: live555 : delay RTSP PAUSE command while in paused state Otherwise, the seek command would unpause the stream and that's not what vlc is expecting. ...
19:11 funman  so fprintf(bla, "I64d", 1) looks wrong
19:11 LordRPI  that's how you do it on windows
19:11 j-b  I64d does it on Windows
19:12 funman  damned*
19:12 j-b  and of course MS printf doens't understand %zu
19:12 j-b  or %ju
19:12 funman  j-b: s/gnu_printf/ms_printf/ ?
19:12 geal  and they don't want to implement it
19:12 LordRPI  it was fucking annoying. Since all the guys that were doing ports at DivX from windows -> non sucky os all made that into %d
19:12 LordRPI  havoc on ppc
19:12 j-b  funman: and of course MS printf doens't understand %zu
19:12 courmisch  funman: -POSIX +ISO C
19:12 courmisch  I can understand why Microsoft does not care about POSIX
19:12 funman  % grep PRI n1124.pdf
19:12 funman  %
19:13 j-b  funman: they hardcode PRId64 to I64d
19:13 j-b  funman: they hardcode PRId64 to I64d, in mingw
19:13 courmisch  which seems OK
19:13 funman  j-b: in the link i pasted on ML (to gcc doc) they say there is a format specific to mingw
19:13 funman  ms_printf iirc
19:13 courmisch  I have n1256.pdf here
19:13 j-b  funman: and?
19:13 funman  and try it?
19:14 j-b  funman: WHAT?
19:14 courmisch  you must be using TC2
19:14 courmisch  funman: section 7.8.1
19:14 funman  remove your redefinition of PRI* and let gcc check the format string with windows-specific formats
19:14 j-b  funman: it explodes
19:14 j-b  funman: I can't use ms_printf because of %zu and %ju
19:14 funman  you don't understand me
19:14 j-b  and I can't use ming_printf because %PRId are hardcoded to windows native stuffs
19:15 funman  what happens if you remove those PRI*64 definitions ? the exact gcc message
19:15*NaeRey thinks that learning english is not enough to understand this channel
19:15 funman  int64_t a = 0; printf(PRId64,a);
19:15 courmisch  err no
19:16 courmisch  printf("%"PRId64,a);
19:16 linkfanel  all of this to avoid warnings?
19:16 funman  ok
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19:16 funman  courmisch: ah PRIdN, not PRId64 :o
19:17 linkfanel  i have a shitload of printf warnings on wince anyway, and i don't really care
19:17 j-b  funman:  
19:17 j-b  ../include/vlc_messages.h:90:1: warning: '__mingw_printf' is an unrecognized format function type
19:17 geal  linkfanel: whch ones?
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19:18 funman  j-b: "ms_printf" not "__mingw_printf"
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19:19 linkfanel  input/decoder_synchro.c:267: warning: format '%I64d' expects type 'int', but argument 5 has type 'mtime_t'
19:20 courmisch  who is the last element in the audio filter chain? the resampler?
19:20 j-b  linkfanel: true
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19:20 j-b  I ahve had a lot of those
19:20 funman  linkfanel: vlc_common.h "typedef int64_t mtime_t"
19:21 linkfanel  and?
19:22 funman  well, and what?
19:22 linkfanel  idk ¯\(°_0)/¯
19:22 funman  same :/
19:22 funman  j-b: so what if you use "ms_printf" format ?
19:23 funman  does gcc alias it to __mingw_format ?
19:23 funman  then you'll have a warning for %m however o:
19:24 j-b  exactly
19:24 funman  "exactly" < answering to which sentence?
19:27 j-b  19:23 < funman> then you'll have a warning for %m however o:
19:28 funman  thanks
19:28 funman  if you use ms_printf format the warnings about wrong integer format go away?
19:28 j-b  no
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19:28 funman  you still see "unknown format __mingw_format" ?
19:29 j-b  no, I have the argument mismatch
19:29 crazed  [0x28717150] [Media: test] stream_out_rtp stream out error: cannot add this stream (unsupported codec: wma2)
19:29 funman  j-b: which message exactly please?
19:29 j-b  wma2 over rtp?
19:29 crazed  is it not possible to transcode a wma2 rtp
19:29 crazed  yeah
19:29 j-b  funman: compile your gcc
19:30 funman  hu??
19:30 j-b  funman: or use altair
19:30 funman  well i'll just stop helping you
19:30 crazed  is it not possible to transcode a wma2 over rtp to something else?
19:30 j-b  mingw64 toolchain is built on ~jb/build
19:30 j-b  funman: you know that this wont be possible
19:30 funman  if you just give me a dir when i can run make then it could do it
19:30 geal  j-b: can mingw64 build for 32 bits?
19:30 j-b  geal: yes
19:31 j-b  geal: and mingwCE
19:31 geal  seriously?
19:31 j-b  funman: I CANNOT use ms_printf because of %zu and %ju
19:31 geal  on msys?
19:31 j-b  geal: yes
19:31 geal  \o/
19:31 j-b  geal: but their headers are still far from mingw.org
19:31 geal  funman: come on, build your own gcc, it's fun
19:32 funman  j-b: i don't understand your sentence it lacks details
19:32 geal  j-b: no problem with that, I'm used to header rewriting...
19:32 linkfanel  j-b: i don't understand your home
19:32 funman  *printf() on mingw can't use "%zu" ?
19:32 funman  gcc on mingw says "%zu" is an invalid format specifier?
19:32 j-b  funman: only mingw_printf can
19:33 linkfanel  okay i understood
19:33 j-b  linkfanel: what do you need to understand?
19:33 j-b  geal: linkfanel: come on their IRC
19:33 linkfanel  where is it?
19:33 funman  j-b: I wasn't mentioning ms_printf() function
19:33 funman  but __attribute__((format(ms_printf,x,y))) so I don't get it
19:33 linkfanel  invite me lol
19:34 j-b  linkfanel: oftc
19:34 linkfanel  what channel?
19:35 j-b  mingw-w64
19:35 DGMurdockIII  (geal): did you get my message about the error i was getting yessterday well here is a screenshot of the error i was getting on the lastest NB of 1.1 http://i30.tinypic.com/21ak505.png
19:36 geal  j-b: on which server?
19:36 geal  DGMurdockIII: I didn't get your message
19:37 geal  what did you do to make assert unhappy?
19:37 j-b  geal: oftc
19:37 geal  ok
19:37 DGMurdockIII  (geal): i open videolan then i clicked open file then i tryed to play a video
19:38 geal  oh
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19:38 funman  j-b: i need to go please keep me updated
19:38 DGMurdockIII  (geal): I also get same error if i try play a music file as well
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19:39 j-b  I don't speak the same language than him
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19:43 Agiofws  hello  
19:43 Agiofws  how do i set  .. the default video  device  to /dev/video0    in  vlc ?  from command  line or from the web interface  
19:45 Agiofws  how do i set  .. the default video  device  to /dev/video0    in  vlc ?  from command  line or from the GUI interface  
19:46 xtophe  isn't it already the default ?
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19:49 Agiofws  no  
19:49 Agiofws  xtophe,    
19:49 Agiofws   default  is dev/video  
19:49 Agiofws  not video0  
19:49 Agiofws  how do i set it ?
19:50 xtophe  in the preferences of the v4l and v4l2 modules i think
19:50 Agiofws  in vlc ? ui ?
19:51 Zephyrion  hmm. have installed a new soundcard here now.
19:51 Agiofws  xtophe,   where ?
19:51 xtophe  Agiofws: yes. preferences/all/input/access/v4l i think
19:52 Agiofws  where ?
19:52 Agiofws  ALL ?
19:52 Zephyrion  had problems with my creative card, when playing dd or dts movies in vlc, had lots of sound drops, dont have the problem with my new asus sound card.
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19:53 xtophe  Agiofws: bottom left corner
19:53 xtophe  bbl
19:57 crazed  where can i find some free public rtsp streams that are aac or mp3 encoded
19:57 thresh  freecaster has some
19:57 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/noise.c: video_filter_noise: remove unneeded function and variables.
19:57 thresh  you have to dig for rtsp url by yourself though
19:57 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/deinterlace.c: video_filter_deinterlace: cosmetics.
19:57 CIA-12  Rémi Duraffort  master modules/video_filter/ (rv32.c scale.c): video_filter: remove unneeded function.
19:58 crazed  thanks
19:58 crazed  ah any just audio?
19:59 courmisch  hmm how do I run plain "ffmpeg" to decode something?
19:59 j-b  ffplay?
20:00 courmisch  ffplay needs SDL, no?
20:01 j-b  probably
20:02 ILEoo  ffmpeg -i file -acodec pcm_s16be - > /dev/dsp  or so?
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20:04 Agiofws  how do i set  .. the default video  device  to /dev/video0    in  vlc ?  from command  line or from the GUI interface  
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20:04 Agiofws  can anyone help me ?
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20:06 ILEoo  Agiofws: you didn't try vlc v4l2:///dev/video0 , did you?
20:08 Agiofws  Unable to open 'v4l2:///dev/video0'
20:08 Agiofws  Unable to open 'v4l1:///dev/video0'
20:09 ILEoo  run with -vvv and see what it complains about
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20:09 ILEoo  and don't paste output to here
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20:10 Agiofws  [00000282] main input error: no suitable access module for `v4l1:///dev/video0'
20:10*NaeRey can't manage to play an .mkv (video) and another .dts (soundtrack) through VLC at same time.
20:10 ILEoo  look earlier
20:11 NaeRey  they just open up as a playlist...
20:11 j-b  NaeRey: vlc file.mkv --input-slave file.mkv
20:11 NaeRey  you mean.. vlc file.mkv --input-slave file.dts ?
20:11 j-b  yes
20:12 NaeRey  OK:)
20:12 NaeRey  danke
20:13 Agiofws  how do i set  .. the default video  device  to /dev/video0    in  vlc ?  from command  line or from the GUI interface  
20:13 Agiofws  or even  from the config file  
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20:16 ILEoo  Agiofws: it's the syntax I told you, you either lack v4l and v4l2 modules, or some other reason those modules can't access video0 for you
20:17 courmisch  woo removing scaletempo helps a lot with audio decoding
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20:17 Agiofws  ILEoo,   cam works ...  
20:17 Agiofws     so v4l or v4l2 works  
20:18 nefrir  courmisch: scaletemp is slow (not noticable on a good pc but...)
20:18 nefrir  and it is not very optimized
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20:19 courmisch  that and it's not fixed-capable
20:21 nefrir  it does auto-correlation which is slow
20:21 nefrir  but fixed point code should not be difficult if wanted
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20:21 nefrir  for fpu-less system, maybe it could be better to not insert it
20:22 courmisch  I'm still mixed
20:22 courmisch  Cortex-A8 is supposed to have VFP
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20:22 courmisch  but more importantly it has NEON
20:22 courmisch  which is SIMD for integers, fl32 and polynoms
20:23 courmisch  so float should not be slow
20:23 nefrir  unless wrong, there is only 2 functions to optimize in fact
20:23 nefrir  best_overlap_offset_float and output_overlap_float
20:23 nefrir  or to change for fixed point
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20:24 nefrir  and a little changes in reinit_buffers
20:24 nefrir  the code seems to have been written for easy fixed/optimization support
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20:29 courmisch  is it any use when not cahnging the rate though?
20:30 nefrir  no, it is used to keep the pitch while changing the length
20:30 nefrir  ex: 1000 samples are transformed into 1500 samples but without pitch modification
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20:31 nefrir  so usefull for slower/faster playback
20:31 Tanguy  Salut ! Hello!
20:31 courmisch  I think I will live leaving it
20:31 nefrir  and also when correcting for drift between the sample count and the pts
20:32 Tanguy  On VLC 1.01, I discovered that there is a Free TV channels discovery module.
20:32 Tanguy  It is impressive, but do you know how it actually works?
20:32 courmisch  it fetches a M3U list over HTTP from the freebox AFAIK
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20:33 Tanguy  Okay, tat is rather simple, finally.
20:33 Tanguy  that*
20:33 Trax  DGMurdockIII: ah confirmed.. with latest nightly I too now have the problem with the seperator
20:33 DGMurdockIII  ok
20:34 Tanguy  I shall look at the code, if it is that, as it will be possible to add the same for SFR TV.
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20:34 Trax  I'll try from another box with some more debugging.. was this looked into or fixed already in trunk? I didn't check commits lately
20:34 DGMurdockIII  is trax, what os are you on
20:34 Trax  xp 32
20:34 DGMurdockIII  im on windows 7 64bit
20:34 DGMurdockIII  ok
20:35 DGMurdockIII  hoy do i enable JIT or debugging
20:35 Trax  and the alignment crash on streaming?
20:35 DGMurdockIII  yes
20:35 DGMurdockIII  i get that
20:35 Trax  ok so I'm not alone on that one either
20:35 DGMurdockIII  http://i30.tinypic.com/21ak505.png
20:36 Trax  funny thing is, x264 encoding does work but it gives corrupt video
20:36 DGMurdockIII  see that is my screenshot
20:36 DGMurdockIII  i took of the error
20:36 Trax  yeah I have exact same
20:36 DGMurdockIII  dose it happen if you try to play a music file too
20:36 Trax  I use a cygwin gdb session to debug
20:37 DGMurdockIII  is that easy to set up
20:38 Tanguy  Does the Free TV module have a same, so that it can be added to the auto-loaded playlist modules?
20:38 Trax  it's an old build environment I had but I don't use it anymore.. maybe j-b can recommend something, debug under windows should be possible too though
20:38 ivoire  Tanguy: add it as a lua service discovery if possible
20:38 ivoire  no need to add a C module for this
20:39 Trax  it's annoying it gives the popup
20:39 Tanguy  ivoire: Well, if I can, I will add it as the Free one is written, as it is the same job.
20:39 Trax  if I continue I get some backtrace but I'
20:39 Trax  I'm not sure if that';s still valid
20:39 ivoire  Tanguy: as you want
20:40 j-b  Trax: ?
20:40 Trax  http://vlc.pastebin.com/m37226c88
20:40 Trax  that happens if I press ignore on the crash popup with that separator thing but I'm not sure if this is a result of the previous crash
20:41 Trax  j-b: was wondering what the easiest way would be under windows to provide a backtrace
20:41 Trax  I've tried windbg before but wasn't really comfortable with it
20:44 Trax  if I click retry it gives me the same error though
20:44 Trax  crash on stl_deque
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20:47 Trax  DGMurdockIII: although it's still what I use, I wouldn't promote cygwin to the general public.. maybe purely for debug msys and gdb is a better option, or some good walkthrough on windbg
20:48 Chousuke  huh
20:48 Chousuke  I downloaded a recent VLC git nightly and for some reason it contained an empty emacs.app bundle
20:48 CIA-12  Rémi Denis-Courmont  master modules/audio_output/pulse.c: PulseAudio: use 16-bits PCM if FPU is missing
20:49 CIA-12  Rémi Denis-Courmont  master modules/audio_output/pulse.c: PulseAudio: don't clutter console
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20:49 Chousuke  apparently it's not functional either :)
20:49 CIA-12  Rémi Denis-Courmont  master src/libvlc-module.c: libvlc-module: comments fix
20:49 Chousuke  oh well.
20:50 uberspaced  anybody know where I could find information on how to transcode an mp3 into some flash video thing or whatever?
20:50 uberspaced  I know that "mp3" isnt video ;)
20:50 uberspaced  i just want to find a way to get a sound bite into a flash video.
20:52 DGMurdockIII  (uberspaced): http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=60947
20:53 uberspaced  thanks.
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20:56 DGMurdockIII  where do i get the debug sysmble
20:57 courmisch  you compile VLC yourself
20:57 DGMurdockIII  oh ok
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20:59 crazed  so how come wma2 can't be used over rtsp?
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20:59 crazed  well why can't vlc take a wma2/rtsp stream and transcode it to aac  
21:00 funman  courmisch: can you rebuild ffmpeg with --enable-debug?
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21:04 courmisch  funman: yes, but it will take an hour before I recompile everything AGAIN
21:04 funman  why everything ?
21:05 funman  vim Makefile;rm -rf ffmpeg;make;cd ../../modules/avcodec;make clean all
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21:06 funman  i don't know fpu but if r3 is meant to be a pointer it's not a good one
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21:07 funman  ah it's assigned at the start
21:07 courmisch  I am nwo trying with VFPv3
21:08 courmisch  Qt should give every developer a N900 instead of 15k€ :D would be better business
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21:08 funman  you bought yours?
21:09 j-b  feepk: ping
21:09 courmisch  I never bought any Nokia device
21:09 j-b  courmisch: who can we ask on the maemo team to get one free?
21:09 funman  steal?
21:09 funman  feels good man
21:09 funman  j-b: s/one/one per dev/
21:10 j-b  well at least one or two would be nice to help the port
21:10 courmisch  j-b: Quim Gil is our OSS Marketing dude, but I wouldn't count on that
21:10 j-b  Qui Gon Jin?
21:10 thresh  well, he wants maemo to be active
21:10 funman  :D
21:10 j-b  isn't he a jedi?
21:11 courmisch  funman: we're entitled to one new work phone every two year per policy, plus I get prototypes if my work requires it
21:11 courmisch  then the SIM card is a taxed benefit
21:11 funman  courmisch: what's your work on N900?
21:11 j-b  network and ipv6 ?
21:11 thresh  Guim Gil wants developers to be more active on maemo
21:11 thresh  so w shoud probably spend some time reaching him
21:11 thresh  we should
21:11 courmisch  modem interface stuff mostly
21:12 courmisch  some kernel and low-level userland code
21:12 thresh  maemo-developers had some interesting message today, sec
21:12 j-b  btw, how does VLC work on N810 now?
21:12 courmisch  no idea
21:12 thresh  i cant set up a build env :(
21:12 courmisch  I only have N800 and I never ran VLC on it
21:13 thresh  j-b: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2009-September/020436.html
21:13 j-b  thresh: nice
21:13 thresh  i should subscribe, really
21:14 j-b  how do we go to maemo.org Extra?
21:14 funman  19:39 < j-b> I don't speak the same language than him
21:14 thresh  j-b: we need garage account
21:14 thresh  j-b: http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras
21:14 funman  garbage?
21:15 courmisch  oh come on, you're french, you know what that word means
21:15 funman  what is developer program ?
21:15 thresh  i really need to spend some time on that
21:15 thresh  funman: free beer in every bar in .fi
21:15 courmisch  funman: way to procure devices for "software development" purpose
21:15 DGMurdockIII  how do i use windbg for debugging vlc
21:15 funman  thresh: too far
21:15 courmisch  I guess funman is not interested
21:15 thresh  i'd come though
21:16*courmisch will keep that in mind
21:16 funman  DGMurdockIII: start with windbg tutorials
21:16 j-b  Msys+gdb ftw
21:16*j-b wants a N900
21:16 courmisch  one month to go
21:16*j-b wants a N900 for free
21:17 courmisch  hmm err
21:17 thresh  hey, i'm first in a line !
21:17 funman  i just want a beer
21:17 courmisch  me too
21:17 courmisch  I'd like to get a real sales package
21:17 thresh  but dev program last time was a discount on N8x0
21:17 j-b  how much discount?
21:17 courmisch  I doubt they'd give it for free you know...
21:17 thresh  i may be wrong, but iirc it was something like 200$ or 200 euro per device
21:17 j-b  well, even 200euro is nice
21:17 thresh  yeah
21:18 j-b  I could spend up to 250 for an unlocked phone
21:18 courmisch  and really, you might want to get it subsidized, as it's "slightly" more useful with 3G data
21:18 crazed  [0x2871e150] [Media: test] stream_out_standard stream out debug: using `http/ts://localhost:80'
21:18 crazed  is there a reason it says http/ts: ?
21:18*thresh goes back to mirror's edge
21:18 funman  crazed: mux=ts
21:18 crazed  ah
21:19 DGMurdockIII  is Msys+gdb easer than windbg
21:19 crazed  root     vlc-wrappe 10230 4  stream -> ??
21:19 funman  ??
21:19 crazed  tehre's no errors but vlc is definitely not listening on port 80
21:19 crazed  oh sorry that's output from sockstat
21:19 funman  netstat -l
21:20 late-  courmisch, A developer discount and separate data plan should be cheaper at least here.
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21:20 funman  Snio: hi, where is the gtk2 interface for vlc!!
21:21 j-b  courmisch: subsidized @400 is not interesting
21:21 courmisch  it cannot be that expensive
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21:21 Snio  hey funma :D
21:21 crazed  funman: any reason why it wouldn't be listening? i dont' see it in netstat either. looks like it's using a unix domain socket instead
21:21 courmisch  the list price is 500EUR
21:21 Snio  GTK module 4 vlc is sleeping
21:21 courmisch  so public price will be 600
21:21 Snio  I'm very busy with my thesis :S
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21:22 DGMurdockIII  #gtkmmvlc ?
21:22 courmisch  hej Mans
21:23 mru  hi
21:23 funman  mru: hi
21:23 Snio  yeah ... it is/was gtkmmvlc
21:23 j-b  hello mru
21:23 mru  I'm looking for remi...
21:23 j-b  mru: you are looking for courmisch  
21:23 funman  which one ^^
21:23*courmisch whistles
21:23 courmisch  ivoire!!!
21:23 j-b  :)
21:23 mru  ah, didn't know what nick to look for
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21:24 courmisch  the one with a NEON issues would be me
21:24 mru  great, this should be quicker than mail
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21:24 courmisch  mru: you are overestimating the speed of recompiling VLC in Scratchbox
21:25 mru  I just want you to run some more gdb commands
21:25 courmisch  that I can do
21:25 ivoire  courmisch: ?
21:25 j-b  ivoire: go back to sleep :D
21:25 funman  ivoire: hi rémi
21:26 j-b  How do I get a playlist_item_t * from a SD_name ?
21:26 mru  courmisch: (gdb) p &idct_coeff_neon
21:26 courmisch  matter of fact, I still ahve that gdb
21:26 courmisch  $1 = (<data variable, no debug info> *) 0x42984230
21:27 funman  r3 should point to idct_coeff_neon ?
21:27 mru  yes
21:28 funman  and movw/t add pc-relative offsets?
21:28 mru  courmisch: did you shove a static build into a .so?
21:28 funman  well yes vlc plugins are .so and statically linked to libavcodec & al
21:29 courmisch  I thought I had PIC on
21:29 mru  you don't
21:29 courmisch  but ffmpeg may be need something funky
21:29 courmisch  funny that it works with everything but NEON code
21:29 mru  pic is not the issue here
21:30 mru  the problem is ld.so not supporting a specific relocation type
21:30 mru  and the powers that be refuse to implement it
21:30 courmisch  you mean CS?
21:30 mru  the ones
21:31 courmisch  VLC does not support static plugins
21:31 mru  if you build ffmpeg with --enable-shared it should work
21:31 mru  the same code goes into the static and shared libs
21:31 mru  so you can keep linking libavcodec.a into your .so
21:31 mru  going full PIC costs performance
21:32 mru  5% or so
21:32 DGMurdockIII  http://cream.sourceforge.net/ cheack taht out is you like vim
21:32 courmisch  and of course _that_ is hard-coded into VLC contrib
21:32 Dark_Shikari  mru: on 32-bit. on 64-bit it's cheaper
21:33 mru  Dark_Shikari: we're talking about arm
21:33 Dark_Shikari  ah yeah, now I see
21:33 courmisch  so I just enable-sahred and enable-static ?
21:33 Dark_Shikari  wait, pic is braindead on ARM too?
21:33 mru  the compilers are
21:34 mru  and pic always adds extra indirection
21:34 courmisch  btw, any idea if fl32 is supposed to be slow compared to integers?
21:34 courmisch  or did I goof the build
21:34 mru  fl32?
21:34 courmisch  I would think that NEON would "fix" ARM suckiness at handling floats
21:34 courmisch  mru: 32-bits float
21:35 mru  gcc still sucks
21:35 mru  doesn't know to use neon
21:35 funman  idct_coeff_neon should be relocated by ld?
21:35 mru  and the cortex-a8 vfp unit is a bit weak
21:35 courmisch  well, I'll put VLC into fixed point mode
21:35 mru  NOOOO
21:35 funman  feels good man
21:36 courmisch  then what do I do?
21:36 mru  funman: static ld does the relocation correctly
21:36 courmisch  currently, I can decode audio
21:36 courmisch  or video
21:36 courmisch  but not both
21:36 courmisch  CPU just cannot take it
21:36 mru  vfp is much faster than softfloat
21:36 mru  or what did you mean?
21:36-!- HorizonXP [n=xitij@69-165-145-151.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #videolan
21:36 HorizonXP  doesn anyone know how to install the python bindings for VLC?
21:36 HorizonXP  on Gentoo
21:37 courmisch  that the VLC audio chain is disappointingly slow with "FPU" capability enabled
21:37 funman  mru: and you can't use pc-relative addressing if you have several functions in the same file?
21:37 mru  do you have alternate fixed-point codecs?
21:37 courmisch  and so is faad
21:37 funman  yes there is some
21:37 courmisch  well, faad and mad support fixed point
21:37 funman  flac, tremor
21:37 courmisch  tremor could replace vorbis
21:37 funman  wma, mp3 encoder
21:38 funman  wma code was stolen from rockbox which stole it from ffmpeg ^^
21:38 courmisch  especially faad seemed really bad with floats
21:38 mru  ffmp3 is integer-only, and it was faster than mad on cortex-a8 last I checked
21:38 mru  not by a huge margin, but faster
21:39 courmisch  funman: what's the point? can't we configure ffmpeg to use fixed?
21:39 funman  i don't think so
21:39 mru  ffmpeg doesn't have fixed-point decoders for most formats
21:39 mru  vorbis, aac, ac3, dts, wma are all float
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21:39 funman  it would be cool if the work made in rockbox could come back in ffmpeg though
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21:40 funman  wma, atrac, realaudio, flac at least were forked
21:40 mru  ffmpeg's flac decoder is integer
21:40 funman  s/realaudio/cook/
21:40 courmisch  the main audio performance culprit was scaletempo I think
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21:41 funman  mru: since when? the version in rockbox was forked 4 years ago
21:41 mru  why doesn't vlc use audio as the master clock anyway?
21:41 courmisch  so -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp ?
21:42 courmisch  -mhard-float does not seem to work
21:42 mru  -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp is good
21:42 courmisch  and then -O3 -fno-tree-vectorize
21:42 courmisch  or should I just demote to plain -O2 ?
21:42 mru  you really should let ffmpeg configure choose cflags
21:43 courmisch  I don't know about ffmpeg
21:43 mru  but I do...
21:43 courmisch  but there are a lot of other things that don't know what CFLAGS to use
21:44 mru  the flags we set are carefully chosen to give fast, working builds
21:44 courmisch  and I am not to keen on build for armv4 with soft float
21:44 funman  isn't there a neon or cortex option in ffmpeg configure?
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21:44 mru  --cpu=cortex-a8
21:45 funman  Dis, Cortex, tu veux faire quoi cette nuit?
21:45 j-b  !bork funman  
21:45 courmisch  La même chose que toutes les nuits, minus!
21:45 funman  try to take over the world!
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21:46 HorizonXP  ok, nvm, i realized that I need to install the bindings myself
21:47 HorizonXP  i just grabbed a snapshot from GIT, but it seems to be getting a compile error in vlc_mediaplayer.c
21:47 HorizonXP  looking at the history, it seems that the last commit renamed/deleted some redundant functions
21:47 ivoire  HorizonXP: ?
21:47 courmisch  mru: thanks a lot anyway
21:47 mru  np
21:48 HorizonXP  ivoire: yeah, it doesn't seem like they actually tried compiling it
21:48 HorizonXP  because the errors i'm seeing are due to those changes
21:48 funman  mru: btw which ARM CPUs do ffmpeg developers work on? i see ARMV5TE defines, is there people working on armV4?
21:48 HorizonXP  i.e. in vlc_mediaplayer.c, vlcMediaPlayer_get_hwnd is defined twice.
21:49 mru  funman: armv5te and armv7-a are actively tested
21:49 mru  v4 isn't very interesting
21:49 funman  do you have fpu with armv5te?
21:49 mru  and you'd only find it in microcontrollers so small they can barely be seen anyway
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21:50 mru  I have no v5te with fpu
21:50 funman  i have an armv4 which I use to play doom ;-)
21:50 mru  testing is on a marvell sheeva
21:50 Trax  HorizonXP: I wouldn't recommend git atm seeing you also have XP in your name
21:51 funman  ok
21:51 HorizonXP  Trax: why would you make that kinda of prejudiced assertion?
21:51 Trax  crash on open files, alignment crash on transcoding with ffmpeg, corruption with encoder x264
21:51 funman  some audio players feature a armv4 but newer ones come with v5/v6
21:51 Trax  crash on playlist
21:51 mru  funman: you can see the current state of affairs on fate.multimedia.cx
21:52 Trax  but patches are accepted
21:52 funman  mru: i'll bookmark this, i couldn't find it from ffmpeg.org
21:52 HorizonXP  Trax: that's actually a little insulting that you would make an assumption about my competency based on the two letters in my screen name.
21:52 Trax  the last working nightly on win32 seems to be from 0829
21:52 mru  good point, we should probably add a link
21:52 mru  superdump: ?
21:53 Trax  not competency, just a warning
21:53 HorizonXP  Trax: those two letters are in fact, my RL initials. Not the OS I'm running.
21:53 HorizonXP  Trax: well ok, thank you. but i'm on Linux.
21:53 HorizonXP  Gentoo to be precise.
21:53 funman  mru: iirc also the bug tracker is not linked from the website
21:54 mru  it should be
21:54 funman  roundup*
21:54 mru  somewhere under bugreports
21:54 funman  yes it is
21:54 HorizonXP  anyway, i just went back a commit, and compiled that.
21:55 funman  armv5tej @ 250MHz for $50 - want?
21:56 mru  already have 1200MHz sheeva
21:56 funman  :(
21:56 mru  and a nokia 770
21:57 mru  and piles of beagle boards
21:57 CIA-12  Laurent Aimar  master modules/video_output/yuv.c: Converted yuv to "vout display" API.
21:57 CIA-12  Laurent Aimar  master modules/video_output/wrapper.c: Enabled yuv in "vout display" wrapper.
21:57 feepk  j-b: pong
21:57 funman  didn't you have a beagle board on ffmpeg stand at linuxtag2008?
21:58 mru  no, but this year we had one
21:58 j-b  feepk: do you need libiconv on mac?
21:58 j-b  feepk: do you neeed it on the contribs
21:58 j-b  ?
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22:00*gatty needs a girlfriend because doing ironing is a horrible chore :P
22:00 funman  iron soldering > ironing
22:01 funman  but i like both :}
22:01 funman  AND NO I WONT IRON YOUR LAUNDRY
22:01 linkfanel  ironing is useless
22:02 funman  depends
22:02 thresh  gatty: that's why i wear t-shirts and jeans
22:02 funman  if you don't want to look homeless
22:02 feepk  j-b: some libraries require it, such as libcdio, libvcd(x) and zvbi
22:02 funman  linkfanel: but perhaps for you ironing won't help much
22:02 funman  feepk: there is no libiconv on osx?
22:02 feepk  j-b: so I'd guess, yes
22:02 linkfanel  okay
22:03 feepk  funman: of course there is
22:03 funman  too old?
22:03 feepk  funman: but it lacks its la file, which is why I can't link with it directly
22:03 j-b  feepk: why do you need iconv contrib?
22:03 feepk  j-b: to link against the system library
22:03 funman  hm can't you use -liconv ?
22:03 j-b  feepk: and why do you need 1.9.2 and this huge patch on it?
22:03 feepk  funman: please read vlc-devel
22:03 funman  ok ^^
22:04 feepk  j-b: ah, I don't :D
22:04 feepk  j-b: that's legacy from 5 years ago
22:04 funman  j-b: no new mail, what is the subject?
22:04 funman  feepk*
22:04 feepk  j-b: in fact, that patch is applied by apple to do their own builds btw.
22:04 superdump  mru: are you using the piles of beagleboards? :)
22:04 mru  superdump: I plan to
22:04 superdump  and sure we can add a link to fate
22:05 courmisch  a cluster of beagleboards
22:05 superdump  just need to decide where
22:05 courmisch  how come you got a pile full?
22:05 feepk  funman: Snow Leopard misses libiconv.la, which is why you can't link against 3rd party libraries using it without the hack I added to extras/contrib/Makefile
22:05 j-b  feepk: so?
22:05 j-b  feepk: I mean 1.9.2 is very old
22:05 mru  pile may be stretching it, I have 7 of them
22:05 courmisch  all identical?
22:05 feepk  j-b: feel free to do delete. I just need the binary, which I committed a few days ago
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22:05 mru  courmisch: no
22:06 funman  feepk: i have read this but i'm not sure why the .la file is needed
22:06 mru  one rev B, one CP, one C1D, 4 C3
22:06 feepk  j-b: they updated libiconv in the meantime, but they still use a huge patch (almost the same one)
22:06 feepk  funman: because it is referenced the in la files of the contribs
22:06 feepk  funman: possibly, you can strip it and see if it works, but I didn't test that
22:06 funman  ah ok
22:07 courmisch  damn, why did I give my previous N900 protos back
22:07 gatty  mmm N900
22:07 feepk  I'm doing s/system path.la/contrib path.la/g right now ;)
22:08 funman  who uses osx anyway
22:08-!- mru is now known as stevej
22:08 stevej  I do
22:08-!- stevej is now known as mru
22:08 funman  steve jackson: how's your brother
22:08 funman  damn he left
22:09 j-b  gatty: want one too?
22:09*mru want's n900...
22:09 funman  btw where is the macbook i had last year?
22:09*mru cant type
22:09 gatty  yeah N900 is pretty sweet... just too damn expensive for me to justify it
22:09 feepk  funman: more folks than all linux users ;)
22:09 courmisch  it's sleeping on my table
22:09 mru  how much is it?
22:09 j-b  courmisch: if we ask for more than 10, can we have reductions?
22:09 funman  feepk: erally?
22:09 courmisch  if someone wants it
22:10 funman  perhaps propose it on vlc-devel
22:10 thresh  500 euros they say
22:10 courmisch  before tax and subsides
22:10 courmisch  so it's 600€ VAT included
22:11 funman  what's subside if not a tax?
22:11 gatty  ah yeah... finland and its 22% VAT :S
22:11 courmisch  a subsidy makes it cheaper not more expensive
22:11 courmisch  you could probably get it for ZERO € if you contract an expensive enough data plan
22:11 funman  wiktionary says it's some failsafe money given to the king
22:12 funman  is finland monarchy?
22:12 courmisch  it's a republic
22:12 funman  monarchy ended in 1918
22:13 courmisch  before that, it was an independent province of the Russian empire
22:13 courmisch  and before that it was a part of the Swedish kingdom
22:13*funman looks at thresh
22:13*mru hides
22:14 funman  how's ski in sweden / finland?
22:14 gatty  how's wife carrying in finland? :)
22:14 funman  Oo
22:15 courmisch  mru: oh? är du svensk sen?
22:15 courmisch  funman: if you like it long and flat, good
22:15 courmisch  if you like it alpin, not good at all
22:15 funman  i like it fast
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22:15 funman  Fjällen are too low?
22:16 funman  max 24xx meters
22:16 courmisch  gatty: I lack the main instrument to try that sport
22:16 courmisch  not that I'd want to anyway
22:16 funman  courmisch: legs?
22:16 courmisch  no that's not an instrument
22:17 funman  it's a pair of?
22:17 courmisch  in wife carrying you need to carry an object called wife
22:17 funman  they just say female teammate
22:17 Tanguy  Is there a page explaining what I need to build VLC?
22:17 courmisch  which however cannot legally be on sale in Europe
22:17 Tanguy  On Debian testing.
22:17 courmisch  apt-get build-dep vlc
22:17 funman  Tanguy: have you looked at README or INSTALL?
22:17 j-b  Tanguy: apt-get build-dep vlc
22:17 Tanguy  apt-get build-dep fails miserably
22:18 Tanguy  E: Unable to find a source package for vlc
22:18 TypX  ./configure and install what the script complain about
22:18 linkfanel  you need a brain
22:18 funman  Tanguy: you don't have deb-src repositories then
22:18-!- vitb_home [n=vitb@89.169.140.112] has joined #videolan
22:18 Tanguy  Yes I do! <http://paste.debian.net/45561/>.
22:19 Tanguy  TypX: That is what I will do if I really have no other solution. :-) It is a looser solution, I think.
22:19 funman  i don't speak french
22:19*superdump smirks
22:19 linkfanel  but you're a loser, so it's okay
22:19 Tanguy  For the French on my sources.list? Only comments. :-)
22:20 TypX  funman: so you're blessed
22:20 Tanguy  Merci linkfanel.
22:20 courmisch  that's OK, so long as you speak French
22:20 funman  isn't there a "source" equivalent of Contents-*.gz ?
22:21 funman  perhaps no
22:21 funman  it's in distro/repo/source/Sources.*
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22:21 funman  Tanguy: better ask on #debian
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22:21 Tanguy  Right, funman.
22:22 funman  or apt-get update first
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22:22 funman  it looks right so i don't know
22:23 mru  courmisch: yes, I'm swedish, currently hiding in england
22:23 courmisch  at least you speak the natives language
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22:24 courmisch  my two years of Swedish at the French university were of almost no help in Finland :(
22:24 courmisch  admittedly, Helsinki is a mostly Finnish (and Russian) speaking area
22:25 funman  learn russian
22:25 mru  swedish can be hard, and the variant they speak in finland is probably not taught in schools
22:25 gatty  all swedish people are welcome in england... you brought us ABBA and Ikea :P
22:25 mru  except in finland of course
22:25 courmisch  well most importantly, Finnish has nothing to do with anything but Estonian and in theory Hungarian
22:25 funman  gatty: and rockbox :)
22:25 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master extras/contrib/src/Makefile: Contrib: fix FFmpeg for Win64 compilation
22:25 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master modules/codec/avcodec/fourcc.c: WMAP native decoder entered FFmpeg.
22:25 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master extras/contrib/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Update libiconv to latest release... The enormous mac patch is discarded. But we couldn't stay with such an old version anyway.
22:25 gatty  courmisch: we will put that estonian theory to the test when I vist :P
22:25 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master modules/codec/avcodec/fourcc.c: FourCC reordering for Audio
22:25 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master modules/codec/avcodec/audio.c: WMAPro: increase the i_output_max to have a proper decoding
22:26 gatty  s/vist/visit
22:26 courmisch  well, actually, Finnsvensk are easier to understand than Swedes
22:26 courmisch  their accent is less mangled
22:26 j-b  WMAPRO \o/
22:26 courmisch  from foreign learner perspective
22:26 mru  j-b: that was quick
22:26 ln-  now now, Finnish has many related languages, only most of them are ones most have never heard of.
22:26 feepk  j-b: will you patch fontconfig? :)
22:26 funman  j-b: int33_t ?
22:27 j-b  mru: well, my commits were done just after the commits in FFmpeg, but I had lots of sample to test
22:27 funman  first diff of 40d06d44b0c52678b2d87a0ab87bd66655ebd6ab
22:27 gatty  33 bit integer... specially optimised sizing there :D
22:27 funman  ^^
22:27 j-b  oops
22:27 courmisch  I think you can only find those integers on DS9K
22:28 mru  int36 used to be commonplace
22:28 j-b  fuck, I made some mistake with git rebase and commit ammends it seems
22:28 mru  never heard of 33
22:28 funman  33 is for jesus
22:28 mru  int666_t
22:28 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master modules/codec/avcodec/audio.c: 10l: Fix typo
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22:28 j-b  funman: thanks
22:29 funman  english doctors don't ask "say 33" ?
22:29 j-b  I should really branch when I have many patch on one topic
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22:29 funman  j-b: np, just add one beer to the list you owe me
22:29 thresh  cola stuff is also adopted to vlc?
22:29 j-b  funman: sure.
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22:29*mru currently has 37 ffmpeg branches in his local tree
22:29 j-b  funman: I owe you more than one
22:29 j-b  mru: O_o
22:29 funman  1.1 ? :/
22:30 funman  mru: you use git?
22:30 courmisch  http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/green/gfd34/art/
22:30 mru  funman: of course
22:30 j-b  funman: I remember 3
22:30 courmisch  mru: 4x9 ?
22:30 j-b  cat Beers.txt| grep funman gives me 3
22:30 courmisch  socket programming must be interesting...
22:30 nefrir  9bits multiplier is common (at least with some fpga)
22:30 ln-  courmisch: at least all the street names and other official signs are in swedish too in helsinki.
22:31 j-b  "We don't just make bombs. We also make the computers to control them"
22:31 j-b  nice page
22:31 courmisch  ln-: Kaisaniemi - Kajsaniemi yeah very helpful thanks
22:31 ln-  well, it's a name.
22:31 courmisch  Kaiserbay that would be understandable
22:31 funman  software page is for sam
22:31 j-b  "Fed up with people who let their dogs soil the street? No problem." <= Explosion
22:31 j-b  "Here's how to deal with lamers on Usenet:" nuclear explision
22:32 funman  return strcpy(malloc(strlen(s)), s);  
22:33 funman  We're not too worried about apologising to the ex-citizens of Redmond, WA, however. It's their own fault for living there in the first place.
22:34 courmisch  ln-: point being, translating names is not very useful
22:35 courmisch  I am not even sure where I actually live... was it Nordstigen, Hagalund, Esbo or something
22:35 funman  FUCK BABEL
22:35 courmisch  whereas I know I live in Pohjanpolku, Tapiola, Espoo
22:36 gatty  I wish the english would spell where I live how it used to be spelled in the old days.
22:37 mru  gatty: which is?
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22:37 gatty  Reading - in the old days it was Redding, which is how it's said, and avoids confusion with the action of reading something :)
22:38 courmisch  the english language should be written-only
22:38 courmisch  it's too awful to pronounce
22:38 courmisch  being more difficult to pronounce than French being quite an achievement
22:38 mru  gatty: should we flame him?
22:38 ln-  and too awful to hear pronounced wrong
22:39 funman  mru: we have no habits of flamewars here
22:39 funman  only trolling
22:39 ln-  french is simple, all the words sound exactly the same.
22:39 gatty  nothing wrong with franglais  
22:39 gatty  or finglish for that matter
22:39 j-b  !French
22:39 funman  and btw french > english
22:39 courmisch  French is bloody hard to pronounce
22:39 courmisch  the rules depend on the gramatical natures of the word
22:39 mru  french is actually quite easy
22:39 j-b  Where is Hector?
22:39 gatty  just be glad we're not all speaking German now, or we'd have to mush all our words into one big one.
22:39 courmisch  s/natures/kind/
22:39 mru  horse is cheval, and everything else follows the same pattern
22:39 j-b  MagSoft: ?
22:40 courmisch  but at least, it has rules
22:40 LordRPI  gatty - its still Redding, at least the one in California
22:40 funman  j-b: someone stole his nick it seems
22:40 Trax  j-b: you know if ffmpeg does fourcc arch or not? gatty claims he can play my prores sample so perhaps it's just a case of adding fourcc?
22:40 courmisch  whereas English has like five different ways to pronounce every vowel
22:40 funman  horse fever = fievre de cheval
22:40 funman  etc,
22:40 j-b  Trax: arch? can you mail me the sample?
22:40 linkfanel  *fièvre
22:40 courmisch  /home/remi/videolan/maemo/modules/demux/avformat/demux.c:450: undefined reference to `av_free_packet'
22:40 LordRPI  its also amazing how often Americans misprounounce British stuff. I had to correct someone on Worcestershire the other day (as in sauce)
22:40 courmisch  *ahem*
22:41 gatty  war-cester?
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22:41 funman  linkfanel: thänkŝ
22:41 gatty  Americans pronouncing Birmingham is the one that amuses me the most
22:41 funman  hey
22:41 dynaflash  worcestershire sauce is the bomb
22:41 Trax  j-b: does your mailbox handle 1.1Gbyte? it's a prores 422 sample @ 200mbit
22:41 LordRPI  gatty - in Massachussets, they changed to the spelling to Wooster
22:41 funman  who of you doesn't work from 9th to 16th?
22:41 j-b  Trax: mouarf
22:41 Trax  will you accept ftp download instead?
22:41 j-b  Trax: ftp will do
22:41 linkfanel  courmisch: is it the first time you try linking to ffmpeg on that target?
22:42 j-b  Trax: ffplay.exe plays it?
22:42 courmisch  linkfanel: with --enable-sahred yes
22:42 LordRPI  another one from where I grew up in in NY. There was a road called "Leicester Road"
22:42 j-b  422 sample @ 200mbit, in MXF?
22:42 courmisch  removing the *so* "fixed" it
22:42 gatty  Trax: j-b: I am just confirming that
22:42 j-b  gatty: really ?
22:42 j-b  gatty: how do you play it?
22:42 gatty  as in just testing again
22:42 Trax  no apple prores so in mov
22:43 linkfanel  oh
22:43 courmisch  or maybe not or maybe yes
22:43 Trax  I'm setting up some samples for HD transcoding, various outputs such as DNxHD and XDCAM HD 422
22:43 Trax  so I'm configuring some free to use samples based on EBU content
22:43 Trax  this is the first attempt :)
22:43 funman  courmisch: is it in avcodec or avformat,
22:43 gatty  jeez... google has started giving me adverts in russian.
22:44 j-b  Trax: the man you need is named bcoudurier
22:44 j-b  he knows all about mov, dnxhd and mxf, but he has his temper
22:44 Trax  I dunno about that last part.. but had some good discussions about mxf with him already
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22:45 j-b  Anyone against backporting WMAP support to 1.0-bugfix?
22:45 courmisch  funman: avcodec
22:46 funman  you link with -z defs?
22:46 courmisch  building ffmpeg with --enable-shared breaks linking quite badly
22:46 ILEoo  j-b: ain't it more like feature than bugfix? or does 1.0-bugfix have wmap allready in some sense?
22:46 courmisch  yes
22:46 funman             defs
22:46 funman                 Disallows undefined symbols in object files.  Undefined symbols
22:46 funman                 in shared libraries are still allowed.
22:46 j-b  ILEoo: yes, it is a new feature. so far, you need dmo to have it
22:46 j-b  ILEoo: but that is good for marketing :D
22:47 funman  courmisch: i think it should be linked with avcodec then
22:47 courmisch  I am
22:47 j-b  ILEoo: and it won't make a lot of regressions, i think
22:47 funman  it is in $AVFORMAT_LIBS?
22:47 courmisch  but if I remove the .so now it cannot find libz, libgsm and libmp3lame
22:47 ILEoo  j-b: actually I would backport those qt4 playlist changes too then, as they speedup startup quite a bit on big directories
22:47 funman  o:
22:48 courmisch  no no no
22:48 ILEoo  thou they lost that itemtype-icon now in most cases
22:48 courmisch  no pl changes
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22:48 j-b  ILEoo: well, pl is always a big mess, I would avoid
22:48 j-b  and it is code modification
22:48 ILEoo  courmisch: I mean those qt4/components/playlist/playlist_model/item stuff
22:48 j-b  this is just a small code addition
22:48 linkfanel  what's the default for --enable-shared?
22:49 ILEoo  but sure, it's not best idea to backport those
22:49 funman  btw i see a regression in qt 4 playlist
22:49 ILEoo  funman: missing itemtype icon?
22:49 funman  i can't have tree display if i remove ID column
22:49 courmisch  I should really have a shared avcodec though
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22:50 linkfanel  courmisch: how do you link against avcodec? Oo
22:51 funman  one doesn't simply link against avcodec
22:51 courmisch  linkfanel: I did not do anything special
22:51 linkfanel  don't you have to modify configure.ac ?
22:52 funman  ILEoo: i'm not arguing against that because iirc it introduced some code complexity
22:52 funman  linkfanel: well configure.ac should support standard configurations
22:52 j-b  CAN I HAS avcodec+avformat module merge??
22:52 ILEoo  funman: those itemtype icons are prettymuch like 4 lines of code or so
22:52 linkfanel  ?
22:53 ILEoo  j-b: weren't they just splitted just recently?
22:53 funman  splitting is cool
22:53 funman  j-b: what if you ship libavcodec.dll and libavformat.dll next to lib*_plugin.dll ?
22:53 j-b  ILEoo: splitting the code != splitting module :D
22:53 j-b  funman: not again... please read mailing lists...
22:53 funman  what is the subject?
22:54 ILEoo  ;)
22:54 Tanguy  The bootstrap script needs autoreconf?
22:54 funman  i think i joined 2 or 3 months ago or something
22:54 linkfanel  but i forgot the conclusion
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22:54 Tanguy  apt-file search autoreconf shows nothing...
22:54 funman  j-b: please give reference
22:54 Tanguy  Is autoreconf something unavailable as a Debian package?
22:54 j-b  Tanguy: no
22:54 funman  Tanguy: autoconf
22:54 j-b  funman: impossible, because it breaks plugins
22:54 j-b  funman: impossible, because it breaks webplugins
22:54 linkfanel  oh
22:55 funman  Tanguy: apt-get autoconf aclocal automake gnutls-dev
22:55 feepk  nice, Apple finally released their objective-c runtime for windows :)
22:55 j-b  +install
22:55 Tanguy  +install :-)
22:55 funman  j-b: where are webplugins installed?
22:55 funman  j-b: + give mail reference so i can follow the discussion  
22:55 courmisch  it wouldn't if we gave win2k up
22:55 funman  win2k is the best windows ever :o
22:55 j-b  and WinXP  
22:55 j-b  up to SP2
22:56 j-b  btw, I made VLC 1.0.1 run on Win98 today
22:56 courmisch  well I don+ t really care about XP RTM and SP0
22:56 courmisch  SP1
22:56 Tanguy  Okay, autoreconf was an alternative.
22:56 funman  RTFM
22:56 linkfanel  man google
22:57 mru  there are two sensible ways of doing modules with lavc/lavf: 1) link both statically into one module, or 2) have the modules link dynamically against libavcodec.so and libavformat.so
22:58 mru  a third option that can work is to have your lavf module load the the lavc module in such a way that the necessary symbols become visible
22:58 j-b  and we cannot do 2) because of old windows and windows dll hell
22:58 mru  how do you load modules?
22:58 crazed  why does vlc (using vlm to stream) not listen on the port i tell it to #rtp{sdp=rtsp://localhost:9999}, vlc tell sme it's listening on 9999 but when I run sockstat I see vlc listenig on nothing
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22:58 mru  can they see each other's symbols?
23:00 funman  Tanguy: apt-get dh-buildinfo gettext quilt nasm yasm iceape-dev liba52-0.7.4-dev libaa1-dev libasound2-dev libass-dev libaudiofile-dev libavahi-client-dev libavcodec-dev libavformat-dev libcaca-dev libcdio-dev libdca-dev libdvbpsi5-dev libdvdnav-dev libdvdread-dev libfaad-dev libflac-dev libfreetype6-dev libfribidi-dev libggi2-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libglib2.0-0 libgnutls-dev libhal-dev libid3tag0-dev libidl0 libimlib2-dev libjack-dev liblircclient-de
23:00 funman  (i didn't flood, only one line)
23:00 j-b  maybe we can do a special module for Win32 with avcodec module and avformat as a submodule
23:00 mru  don't forget libavutil
23:01 Tanguy  funman: Is that to debug my apt-get build-dep failure?
23:01 funman  yes, apt-get build-dep vlc == what i pasted
23:01 Tanguy  I finally did its job by hand.
23:01 gatty  crazed: --rtsp-host=127.0.0.1:9999
23:02 crazed  ah
23:02 crazed  need an actual ip?
23:02 j-b  mru: we don't have a libavutil module
23:02 gatty  crazed: can swap it for all zeros to listen on all i/fs
23:02 courmisch  that's the problem
23:02 courmisch  we need to link avutil statically into 3 or 4 modules
23:02 j-b  avutil is small
23:02 j-b  avcodec isn't
23:02 courmisch  avcodec, avformat, swscale and postproc
23:03 courmisch  it's still a waste of memory
23:03 j-b  anyone understands anything about playlist+SDs?
23:03 courmisch  what does swscale need besides avutil?
23:03 funman  j-b: jleben?  
23:03 j-b  compared to the 5MB of avformat, because of avcodec
23:03 j-b  funman: no
23:04 funman  mru: are you interested by a position of vlc developer? you get a macbook with the job
23:04 funman  j-b: look how marketing is done
23:04 j-b  he has a beowulf cluster of beagle board
23:05 j-b  why would he need a macbook?
23:05 funman  girls like mac
23:05 courmisch  with AZERTY keyboard
23:05 crazed  gatty: neither 127.0.0.1 or 0.0.0.0 made any difference. im' using vlc-wrapper with setuid root (i am attempting to run it on 554)
23:05 mru  funman: position? you people paying devs?
23:05 funman  mru: we pay with free, unlimited access to irc and mailing lists
23:06 j-b  mru: don't listen to funman :D
23:06 funman  access to the source code only after negociation
23:06*DGMurdockIII slaps funman around a bit with a large trout
23:06 mru  well, my current job doesn't allow irc...
23:06 funman  webirc?
23:06 gatty  crazed: I don't run as root, it's not a good idea - I use the host's firewall to twist the port
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23:07 mru  funman: they block any webirc they find out about too
23:07 funman  my last job (which last more than 7 days) involved watching porn daily
23:07 funman  mru: :(
23:07 crazed  gatty: i will try that then
23:07 mru  I tunnel ssh over https through the web proxy in the french office
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23:07 funman  ^^
23:07 j-b  I tried to get some money from Paris region for VLC and FFmpeg
23:08 j-b  maybe I should start again, since they will have elections soon
23:08 DGMurdockIII  a VC
23:08 DGMurdockIII  fund
23:10 mru  I am always interested in serious offers for decently paid jobs, should any of you know of any...
23:10 funman  mru: you want to change job?
23:10 crazed  gatty: ok, vlc is running as a normal user outoput set to #rtp{sdp=rtsp://0.0.0.0:9999} and still i get no errors (-vvv) and a message saying it is listening on 9999 but sockstat (netstat, lsof -i etc) all say it's not listening there
23:10 crazed  i've tried this on multiple platforms too and teh same issue occurs
23:11 funman  sometimes on vlc-devel@ there is offers for 1-time job
23:11 gatty  crazed: what are you trying to achieve, what is your full command line, and what is your vlm config?
23:12 funman  s/offers/requests/
23:12 courmisch  depends on your definition of decent
23:13 funman  last year i was employed by jpsaman to do work related to vlc, i had to move to netherlands though
23:13 DGMurdockIII  (j-b): Venture capital fund
23:13 courmisch  and your taste. Would you actually write Gstreamer/gobject code ?
23:13 mru  hmm... probably not
23:13 mru  ;-)
23:13 Trax  funman: yeah and you didn't even come over to media city!
23:13 funman  python o:
23:13 crazed  vlc -vvv -I http, login to the interface localhost:8080/vlm.html. enter various fields leads to this command: "new asdf broadcast enabled input "http://listen.technobase.fm/aacplus.pls" output #rtp{sdp=rtsp://0.0.0.0:9999}" hit play and watch vlc output messages in the console saying everything is fine. I am trying to achieve a way of taking one stream, transcoding it to a different bitrate, and streaming it over rtsp
23:13 funman  you can move in barcelona which is quite fun
23:14 crazed  gatty: ^^
23:14 funman  Trax: i was stone :/
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23:14 funman  smoking candles all the day (except in jpsaman house)
23:15 funman  the thing i miss the most from NL is bike roads everywher
23:15 funman  e
23:15 omnipotentduo  hey guys, question, how do I keep VLC from resizing my window each video?
23:15 courmisch  woohoo! VLC can now decode the N900 star trek trailer properly
23:15 funman  i have to break the law here to be safer on bike and i get caught by police
23:15 courmisch  mru: tack så mycket
23:15 j-b  omnipotentduo: look at the preferences
23:15 funman  courmisch: using DSP?
23:15 courmisch  no
23:16 funman  what are codecs+reso of your trailer?
23:16 courmisch  but using the GPU (PowerVR) via XVideo for scaling and chroma
23:16 courmisch  h264 + mp3  
23:16 omnipotentduo  j-b: i have, but the window reloads each video
23:16 courmisch  it's probably 480p but I haven't checked
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23:19 courmisch  but it's still a tiny bit short to play the Matrix Reloaded MKV sample
23:19 DGMurdockIII  http://www.google.com/ventures/.
23:20 mru  courmisch: where is that sample?
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23:21 courmisch  ask j-b I forgot again
23:21 gatty  crazed: I've put the configuration I use at http://vlc.pastebin.com/m1c1fe6 - it's a bridge that takes in a unicast UDP feed and reflects it to multicast and VoD via RTSP
23:21 courmisch  anyway, time to bed
23:21 gatty  crazed: you can probably tweak it to your needs.
23:21 gatty  night courmisch
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23:22 CIA-12  Felix Paul Kühne  master projects/macosx/framework/Sources/VLCMediaPlayer.m: macosx/framework: added a hack to fix compilation on Snow Leopard against the 10.5 SDK
23:22 j-b  what sample?
23:22 j-b  http://streams.videolan.org/streams-videolan/matroska/Matrix.Reloaded.Trailer-640x346-XviD-1.0beta1-HE_AAC_subtitled.mkv
23:23 funman  j-b: know mozinor?
23:25 j-b  yeah
23:26 funman  on t'a mis un rein artificiel
23:26 funman  seul problème : il faut changer la pile
23:30 funman  http://www.manbottle.com/pictures/aussie_windaz.gif
23:30 sd-tux  sorry people, but one more time about vlc master segfaults with --vlm-conf file with several streams. i compiled vlc with debug enabled and here is the backtrace:   http://pastebin.com/m608e328 .  how i start vlc and config can be found here: http://pastebin.com/m573630de
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23:31 Tanguy  Hey, is VLC using XCB now?
23:31 funman  yep
23:31 Tanguy  Waoh!
23:32 j-b  Tanguy: c'est toi?
23:32 j-b  Elessar?
23:32 gatty  sd-tux: looks similar to some issues I was having with vlm but which I thought were related to mosaic.
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23:33 funman  gatty: was it you using bluescreen module?
23:33 Tanguy  Oui, j-b.
23:33 funman  Tanguy: gatty libvlc->p_vlm == NULL
23:33 gatty  funman: no, I was using the placeholder stream functions in mosaic
23:34 Tanguy  Was that really for me, funman?
23:34 CIA-12  Jean-Baptiste Kempf  master extras/contrib/src/Patches/libiconv-win64.patch: Contrib: fix even more libiconv win64 patch
23:34 funman  you could use frame 5 and print p_libvlc->p_vlm
23:34 funman  Tanguy: nope :/
23:34 funman  sd-tux: gatty p_libvlc->p_vlm == NULL
23:36 gatty  hmm screwy
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23:37 funman  try to set a breakpoint in __vlm_New to see if it is called
23:38 sd-tux  funman: i think my c knowledge is not good enough for this ...
23:39 funman  sd-tux: then harass gatty :)
23:39 sd-tux  :)
23:41*gatty hides
23:42 sd-tux  gatty: :) if you have recent vlc could you try it with vlm.conf from http://pastebin.com/m573630de ... plz
23:43 j-b  Tanguy: great to see you around
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23:44 funman  I am an operations manager for the Intel Software Network
23:44 funman  FFUUUUU
23:44 HorizonXP  anyone know why I get an InstanceException when trying to use vlm_show_media?
23:44 funman  what's "CNDA" ?
23:44 mru  it's the fourcc for canada
23:45 Tanguy  j-b: I never left #vrac on Diwi. :-) But I do not come on #videolan often, that is true. Mostly consumer attitude
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23:45 funman  i'm n ot able to decode quebecian
23:45 funman  "I would like to share this with you under CNDA."
23:45 j-b  funman: Corporate Non-Disclosure Agreement
23:45 j-b  funman: I'll asnwer
23:45 funman  i supposed
23:45 gatty  sd-tux: dunno if I'll get time for a week or so - I'm busy tomorrow and friday, then out of the country for a week. :(
23:46 funman  j-b: how can i be a member of videolan associaton / what do i gain ?
23:46 Tanguy  Takes some time to compile VLC on a K7........ :-)
23:46 HorizonXP  when I run print self.instance.vlm_show_media('myshow'), i get the error, Unable to call show myshow
23:46 j-b  funman: annoying things and no benefits
23:47 mru  hmm, i7 is faster than k7...
23:47*mru waits for g7
23:47 Tanguy  What will g7 be?
23:47 mru  and eventually a7
23:47 funman  amd cpu?
23:48 j-b  Tanguy: are you still @ecp?
23:48 amuck_  Is there any way get the current playing framerate with libvlc?
23:48 Tanguy  No, I have finished, and got my diploma.
23:48 j-b  I want z7, it will rock
23:49 crazed  gatty: i adopted your config and came up with this: http://vlc.pastebin.com/m660bcdc7 still having the same problem though
23:50 HorizonXP  :( no ideas? I don't even know how to debug this...
23:50 j-b  HorizonXP: python ?
23:51 HorizonXP  HorizonXP: yup
23:51 HorizonXP  j-b: yup
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23:56 funman  j-b: i'm not very open to advertisement on videolan.org
23:56 j-b  me neither
23:56 j-b  it is just to get rough numbers
23:57 j-b  to understand what they want
23:57 j-b  KNOW your ENNEMY
23:58 j-b  it doesn't cost me anything :)
23:58 HorizonXP  j-b: ?
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23:59 j-b  HorizonXP: I don't use vlm much, so I don't know
23:59 j-b  HorizonXP: VLC version?
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